Posted on 07/05/2007 11:34:16 AM PDT by Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh
” But even I know that someone who destroyed his own liver voluntarily by alcoholism should never receive a second liver to destroy..”
never? What if they give up the drink?
How is Larry doing anyway? Is he still drinking?
“...unless of course there’s suddenly a glut of livers lying around with no one claiming them. But I don’t see that happening.”
Sometimes it is difficult to place organs.
It may seem cruel fate for the alcholic to be the only match for a healthy liver - but there it is. Do you deny it?
A good topic for another thread I suppose.
This link will get you to the 2007 budget of UNOS, someone is making an lot of money off of donations, Wages for 2007 $12,749,000.00 Benefits $5,597,000.00, travel $1,903,000.00.
wages are spread over how many people?
Same question for benefits and travel.
I would expect the travel budget to be high.
The point is where does the money come from somebody is selling something and somebody is paying. Now if you have a break down of the number of staff and so forth?
That picture was sent to me several years ago in an email
with the title “How To Tell If Your A$$ Is Too Small. I love it.
I tried to open the document and couldn’t do it - but my computer has been funky that way.
Where does the money come from?
I’m sure others here know more than I do. I’m assuming the state and federal govs. offer funding.
I’m sure there is private funding as well as donations.
But then again...I haven’t read the budget, so I don’t know.
I’ve read all the posts up to this one, and even reviewed some of it to find where anyone called your brother-in-law a butcher or a monster. Nobody used the word “monster” before your post. Narses and I both used the word “butcher,” but not in reference to your bil. As a matter of fact, I can’t find any reference at all to your bil until your post. So what are you talking about?
The reason is there is an organ shortage is because the sale of organs is illegal. It’s price control, with the price set at zero. That means shortage.
If I had plans to be an alcoholic, I would want them to take out half of my liver and freeze it. Then when my liver is destroyed, I could have the frozen half put back.
My bil has done harvesting.
Stereotyping of butchery and monopolizing and getting way rich would apply to him.
“If I had plans to be an alcoholic, I would want them to take out half of my liver and freeze it. Then when my liver is destroyed, I could have the frozen half put back.”
That would be one smart alcoholic.
Yeah, I suspected you were twisting my words, without bothering to ping me. Thank you for confirming it.
I did not call your bil a butcher. I did not say that ethical transplant personnel are butchers. Did you deliberately ignore my post 24, hoping nobody would notice your dishonesty?
I did not say you called my bil a butcher and I did not deliberately “ignore” post #24.
My reference was to somebody else.
Try as hard as you may - this has nothing to do with you.
Then I believe you should give a courtesy ping to the person you were talking about.
The reality is that most organ transplants are taken from living human beings in contravention of moral law. Brain wave activity is almost never fully absent when the butchers start their unholy “harvest”. Why? Organs post death have little value. Those who chose to profit from this industry deserve the highest level of scrutiny. Instead they created a monopoly that excludes real oversight.
The reverse of what De Beers does to diamonds. There is an unending supply of diamonds, but the supply is controlled to keep the price high.
UNOS has a lock on the organ market, no competition, and they control the whole thing without any legal authority.
I agree.
I know that some organs are harvested while the patients are still alive, but I haven’t seen the statistics. I have no idea how common or uncommon it is. But I do know it’s wrong, and anyone who participates in such a practice is a butcher.
It's outrageous. It should be legal. Right now, you could probably sell the rights to your organs in the event of your death for 25K. The organ supply would rise dramatically, and lives would be saved.
The downside? The doctors would lose money(they claim they don't sell the organs, but they do, they just jack up the rates on the related services). Also, all the people of the world who like to tell other people what to do will be unhappy, from the socialists who don't think anybody should sell anything to the people who get offended about things out of vague religious ideas.
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