Posted on 07/02/2007 4:17:47 PM PDT by AFA-Michigan
resty,
We are talking about porn being distributed through
an on demand movie service that Marriott places in
every one of its hotel rooms to make money when a
guest watches a porn movie. (the lodge net service
also offers other non-porn movies). We are not talking
about Time Warner or Comcast.
best,
ampu
“Marriott is a brand name put in locally owned hotels. It is a franchise operation.”
Which means that Marriott can put anything it chooses in its franchise contract. If ethics were more important than making porn profits, Marriott would contractually require franchisees — in order to use the name “Marriott” — not to associate the founder’s good name with porn and obscenity.
Restornu, you’re not just arguing that Mitt has no responsibility for Marriott selling porn in the decade he was on the board, you’re actually defending Marriott’s sale of porn itself.
And once again, you make clear that you simply don’t understand the system. You write: “A few of you, your solution would be to deprive all of the guests of this because the package also contains adult stuff.”
Wrong again. We’d simply like to see Marriott adopt the same corporate policy Omni Hotels have, for example. Provide the in-room movie system WITHOUT the porn. Is that so hard to understand, Restor? Apparently so.
I am not restor, I am Rest or Resty or restornu ~ Thank you
My friend would like to make it known that...
The Marriott has been public since 1953. The Marriott family owns about 15% of the company. The other 85% is owned by a whole bunch of investors including major institutions.
It is also worthy to note that the President of Marriott a graduate of Notre Dame who is Catholic
What is the difference between President and CEO?
“The CEO is primarily responsible for strategy: long-range planning, company direction. S/he is the most direct interface between the board of directors/stockholders and the company’s managers and employees.
The president’s role tends to be operational and tactical: S/he keeps the wheels on the car, so to speak, and attends to the day-to-day business of the company. S/he is the manager of all managers.
Now, having said that, the biggest actual difference in most companies will be determined by the legal ownership and structure of the company.“
Resty, the Marriotts can contractually require anything they want of franchisees in return for use of the name “Marriott” on the building.
They can require that onsite restaurants and pools meet all legally-proscribed health and safety standards.
They can require that rooms be kept clean and sanitary.
They can require that franchisees not operate prostitution services from the front desk, even in Nevada where it might be legal to do so.
And if they chose, they could require that in-room movie services in hotels that have the name “Marriott” on the outside not be selling hardcore X-rated pornography and obscenity on the outside.
Instead, Marriott negotiated a system-wide bulk rate contract with “On Command” — which is not the same thing as “on demand” — to knowingly sell and profit from porn.
Prominent LDS Church member John Harmer of Salt Lake City, former California Lt. Gov. and now chairman of a SLC-based anti-porn group The Lighted Candle Society, says it’s wrong for Marriott and other hotels to sell porn.
Since you disagree with prominent church member John Harmer, does that make you “anti-Mormon”? Just checking...
Correction:
And if they chose, they could require that in-room movie services in hotels that have the name “Marriott” on the outside not be selling hardcore X-rated pornography and obscenity on the INSIDE.
It is based on the same principal!
It like King World Productions who is a Supplier and co-producer of first-run syndicated television programming.
They sell package deals which might include in that package things the buyer might not want but it a take it or leave it deal!
http://www.kingworld.com/program/index.html
If you haven’t noticed in the pass 20 years or so its been a while since good could travel on its own with the companion of the opposition!
The choice comes where one chooses not to put that channel on or choose not to purchase something bad.
You have it in the TV shows packages you receive the lemons along with the winners!
Just choose not to watch the lemons and not to buy bad stuff!
(snip)
...hiss...crackle...your false and baseless charges makes you feel like my “friend.”
Just as I predicted. You DID continue to thump your chest talking about how much smarter than me you are. And you DIDN'T say which candidate you support for President.
Good night. : )
None of us who are LDS have to check our free will at the door that is a template you conjured up!
I don’t feel J. Marriott, nor is Mitt responsible no matter how much you would enjoy holding them to your assumptions.
I suggest you take the Marriott test.
Check into your local Marriott, go
to adult selections. Choose one -
any one. Witness that Marriott charges
you extra so that they can pay their
board members. Witness the porn. Then
ask why Romney didn’t have a problem
with this profit center. It’s that
easy.
If Mitt Romney is going to put on the mantle of wholesome family guy, it seems fair to me to ask him if he was involved with any porn-related decision while on the board. If his actions suggest that he battled against the policy, his family-friendly credentials are strengthened. If he didn't try to stop the policy, Romney is open to a charge of hypocrisy which is better discovered now than in the general election (if he were to get the nomination).
It don’t matter one has to make a conscientious choice to purchase among all the free TV just like at home not it might be more raunchy but raunchy is raunchy and has nothing to do with highend hotels it has to do with the fool who exercise free will!
You are so consumed with blind contempt for the LDS and Romney!
Have a nice day!:)
resty,
You do not understand what is involved. This
is why I suggested you take the Marriott test.
Did you complete the Marriott test so quickly???
Once you take the test, you will realize it is
not the same. If you are unwilling to actually
see firsthand the difference between this and
what is offered through pay for view on home
systems, you do not understand.
Beyond this, the point isn’t whether they
are the same or different. The issue
is that -—>>MARRIOTT PROFITS OFF INDIVIDUAL GUESTS
WATCHING PORN. MITT KNEW THIS.<<-— That is
the point for those of us who are anti-porn.
As you know, I’m not voting for mitt for at
least two reasons already, so it matters not
to me. But I am AMAZED that you are unwilling
to see the issue involved resty.
AMAZED.
“You DID continue to thump your chest talking about how much smarter than me you are.”
Smithee, for all I know, you’re a neuro-surgeon and 10 times as smart as me.
But you’ve given no indication of such here, only a kneejerk propensity for false assumptions, false accusations, and premature celebrations.
Given the evidence, no chest-thumping required...
Resty writes: “I don’t feel J. Marriott, nor is Mitt responsible no matter how much you would enjoy holding them to your assumptions.”
I see. The people who sell porn are not responsible for the selling of porn. (Pray tell, Resty, who is?)
Refusing to be drawn into a discussion based on facts and reasoning, Resty then retreats once again to the favorite refuge of Romney defenders:
“You are so consumed with blind contempt for the LDS and Romney!”
(Funny, how come when somebody criticizes Rudy’s record, they’re not accused of being anti-Catholic? And why aren’t McCain’s critics routinely accused of being anti-Episcopalian?)
But why do you keep dodging the question, Resty?
Prominent LDS Church member John Harmer, chairman of the Salt Lake City-based anti-porn group The Lighted Candle Society, says Marriott and other hotel chains are wrong to sell porn. And he does hold board members like Romney responsible.
Since prominent LDS Church member John Harmer disagrees with Marriott and Mitt (and you) on the selling of porn, does that mean prominent LDS Church member John Harmer is also “consumed with blind contempt for the LDS”?
Or since you disagree with prominent LDS Church member John Harmer on this issue, does that mean that you, Resty, are “consumed with blind contempt for the LDS”?
Hint: the easy way out, rather than just keep dodging it, is to finally lay down the “poor victim of religious persecution” weapon you’re so used to wielding and just admit that non-Mormons can agree or disagree with Mormons, and Mormons can even disagree with each other, and none of it has anything to do with their religion.
Marriott’s porn sales, and Romney’s share of responsibility for such sales, have nothing to do with their religion (except to the extent that porn sales is at odds with the tenets of their own faith).
Whoever owns Hilton Hotels is guilty too, and I haven’t a clue what religion if any they are...except I read Paris says she found God in jail recently, if that’s any indication.
Already read this stuff ... something duplicitous about it all.
DanielLongo,
I am glad we have found common ground. That
is the issue. No more or no less. I would
feel the same about any candidate, but in
this instance, the guy is a fairly well
entrenched member of his religion that
opposes porn - as are the Marriott family
members (my understanding).
... and in a POTUS primary, this stuff is
all grist for the mill. Some voters would
like to know this and they have the right
to ask. Mitt has the right to answer or
avoid answering. His call, since he will
have to weigh the consequences.
I simply like to see how consistent a person
is with their professed beliefs. In mitt’s
case, it is just idle interest, since I am
not voting for mitt in any race.
And Daniel, you are right, it destroys families.
Though this be a brief moment of agreement,
I’m with you on it.
ampu
Should the two of you continue this mischaracterization, I will consider the two you doing this with the intent to distort the true situation!
Than I suggest if you have Digital Cable you better remove it for you have access to Porn in your home brother!
resty,
Who do you think purchases the package from
Lodgenet? Who do you think gets a cut of the money
when porn is purchased? Lodgenet is installed
to be a money maker for the hotel (Marriott isn’t
the only one) and it’s a HUGE one.
1. I am not mischaracterizing what they do -
I’ve witnessed it many times in a Marriott
when I stay there.
2. It doesn’t matter to me whether you consider
it anything. You are uninformed, having never
stayed there. You did not take the test.
best,
ampu
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