Posted on 06/27/2007 7:57:39 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
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Hank
Only time I’m shirtless in public is when I’m on the beach. Other than that I’m a decent person.
In a country of a half billion, being able to dredge up enough deviants to make an episode of Phil or Sally doesn't mean that's who we are.
Ping 4 Later
Depressing statistics. Fortunately, we live in a community where the youngsters are generally a decent bunch of kids. Their parents insist upon it.
The difference is, in the 50s it would have to be dredged up, today it is thrown at you from every venue.
There is always some decadence in any society, whether or not a society can be classified as decadent depends on whether its on the periphery or has gone mainstream. Read the rest of the series as it’s posted. You will not be able to deny it has gone mainstream without denying facts.
Hank
I appreciate that “Hank Kerchief” is a good screen name, but are we really supposed to take seriously an article by someone named Reginald Firehammer? Sounds like a name from a W.C. Fields movie.
Thansk for posting. I was just thinking about this the other day. I was thinking that,
In the ‘70’s we gently poked fun at Ward and June Cleaver.
In the ‘80’s we mocked Ward and June Cleaver.
In the ‘90’s we pointed to Ward and June Cleaver with unmitigated contempt.
In the current decade we do not even recognize and cannot even imagine life for Ward and June Cleaver.
It is so very tragic.
We presently can wage war in Iraq and Afghanistan, and keep US soldiers, airmen, naval personnel and marines stationed at bases in several dozen countries exactly because enough young people, mainly men, think enough of their country to volunteer for military service.
How many fierce young men will volunteer to protect homosexual activists who beat up on women protesting gay marriage? How many young women will lay down their lives so a city can seize their grandmother’s home in an eminent domain action to build a commercial real estate project? How many people will be willing to drop bombs on enemies of the United States, and protect a government that does not seem to care about its own border security? Who wants to fight to protect a Senate that confirms the battle’s general but quickly finds it so easy to call him and the people who do the heavy lifting incompetent?
These issues are all grains of sand, slowly eroding from the conscious will and determination of our youth. We will not be able to measure it directly. We can only measure it at the margins. Are more youth or fewer interested in serving the country? Are people running towards or away from the fight? Are people putting forth reasoned or irrational arguments about protecting this country? How many are willing to allow that this country is not worth protecting How many want to attack those who are concerned about morality, indeed how increasingly often are concerns about morality called “hate speech”?
To be blunt, we are approaching a point when non-libertine people will decide that they are not willing to put their lives at risk to save libertine people. When the sheep dogs say the sheep are not worth protecting, then the country is doomed.
I'll wait, then. Typically I when I hear people talk about how sexual deviancy has gone mainstream, I have to ask "Why haven't I met any of these people?". Maybe I just live a sheltered life.
I'm betting it's because you don't watch much television. Turn it off, and about 95% of this stuff simply becomes irrelevant in your life. People today generally don't live the "indecent" lives that the author imagines, but they do turn on the TV and feel bad because they think everybody else does and they are missing out on something. ;)
And, the Good Ol' Days weren't all that good, it was just easier to hide things. Examples from my own family and their friends from those golden years:
My grandmother's sister married a guy who beat her regularly because she didn't get pregnant (she eventually divorced him, married another guy and went on to have 3 kids).
We have reason to believe my other grandmother was sexually abused by one of her creepy brothers.
One of my great-grandmother's gave herself abortions with knitting needles - and bragged about it.
A woman my parents know from their high school/college days went searching for her biological mother and discovered that she (the woman, not the mother) was the product of incest.
All was not golden at the Cleaver house apparently.
Typically, I don't watch much TV so you may be right. To give you an idea of what my telivision habits are, I still miss Junkyard Wars.
Maybe I just live a sheltered life.
I don’t think it’s that. People choose their companions and associates based on the kind of people they can appreciate and enjoy being with. The decent just do not expose themselves to the kind of things that are going on today, because it doesn’t fit who and what they are—but they need to look, and too many decent people have just not looked—although it’s becoming more blatant every day. (Have you beent a mall lately?)
I appreciate your willing to wait. I think it will be worth it, even if you ultimately disgree, it will an informed opinion.
Hank
Maybe I just live a sheltered life.
I don’t think it’s that. People choose their companions and associates based on the kind of people they can appreciate and enjoy being with. The decent just do not expose themselves to the kind of things that are going on today, because it doesn’t fit who and what they are—but they need to look, and too many decent people have just not looked—although it’s becoming more blatant every day. (Have you beent a mall lately?)
I appreciate your willing to wait. I think it will be worth it, even if you ultimately disgree, it will an informed opinion.
Hank
Nope. I've been to the local scrap yard more times than I've been to the mall in the last 10 years. The few times I have been have typically been Christmas shopping, and I don't remember anything particularly opprobrious about the people there, other than there were way too many of them to suit me.
Yea, but they had their share of porn. Like when June would tell Ward when she thought he was too hard on The Beaver.
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