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Deer Hunting with Jesus
Fred On Everything ^ | 06-19-2007 | Fred Reed

Posted on 06/26/2007 5:58:42 AM PDT by a_chronic_whiner

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I was Looking over FR for some of Fred's recent columns, but not many have been posted; so I thought I'd give it a shot.

Many more great and insightful read at

http://www.fredoneverything.net/index.html

1 posted on 06/26/2007 5:58:45 AM PDT by a_chronic_whiner
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To: a_chronic_whiner
They are serious as melanoma and could give any Muslim sect known a run for its extremism money.

BS. Rednecks don't blow up infidels.

2 posted on 06/26/2007 6:03:43 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: a_chronic_whiner
The country a lot of people live in isn’t the one they think they live in.

That's for sure - we aren't one country. This is one of Fred's better articles. The book sounds interesting, though no doubt many FReepers will quickly take offense at some of the redneck characterizations without reading the whole review.

3 posted on 06/26/2007 6:03:51 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Wise men don't need to debate; men who need to debate are not wise." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: AppyPappy
BS. Rednecks don't blow up infidels.

Some of them would be burning witches before long if there were no laws against it.

4 posted on 06/26/2007 6:05:18 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Wise men don't need to debate; men who need to debate are not wise." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: AppyPappy
Rednecks don't blow up infidels.

Yet.

5 posted on 06/26/2007 6:05:47 AM PDT by CholeraJoe (July 11, 2007. The Rebellion begins!)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

Bull. Rednecks aren’t exactly Puritans when it comes to the law. They don’t blow up people or burn witches because they know it is wrong. They respect innocence a lot more.

Other sects don’t see innocent life as that important. There is no comparison between the two.


6 posted on 06/26/2007 6:10:01 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: a_chronic_whiner

None of your links leads to a story titled: “Deer Hunting with Jesus”


7 posted on 06/26/2007 6:10:36 AM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Fight Crime. Shoot Back.)
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To: CholeraJoe

Call me when the first Baptist group flies a plane into a skyscraper in order to kill non-believers.


8 posted on 06/26/2007 6:11:01 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: AppyPappy

Amish terror splinter groups are building buggy bombs in Middle America as we speak.


9 posted on 06/26/2007 6:12:58 AM PDT by CholeraJoe (July 11, 2007. The Rebellion begins!)
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To: a_chronic_whiner
I got some problems with this one, mostly with the health care argument.

The answer is not government involvement, which will only make things worse for these folks. The government can't run a post office, let alone provide decent health care for all the elderly and injured folks up every holler in West Virginia. Plus it will offend the poor-but-proud, and encourage the usual complement of layabouts to continue gaming the system.

My own preference is for a local health care consortium, organized by locals for locals. Church and charity can help fund, but everybody's going to have to chip in. Sort of like the old mutual benefit societies, back in the days before health insurance.

And my redneck credentials are impeccable. I'm descended from Alabama dirt farmers on my daddy's side (my mom's folk are half small town Southern and half Tidewater, but nobody's perfect.)

10 posted on 06/26/2007 6:13:44 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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This might sound crazy, but I think the real strength of America lies in the vast blue-collar, medium-IQ, redneck demographic.

They might not be the brightest, and may lean towards reactionary, knee-jerk patriotism, but it is them who hold this country together in a way, not the city-dwellers, not the ghetto-dwellers, not the suburb folks.

It is they who go to church and send their sons into battle. It is they who pay their taxes instead of looking for a loophole. Since they are behind the curve on current trends, they tend to have values more closely aligned with their elders and ancesters, and that's a good thing.

I love them, I just don't want to be surrounded by them, although I'm getting ready to propose marriage to one. It will be an interesting wedding seeing the two sides interact!.

11 posted on 06/26/2007 6:16:32 AM PDT by -=SoylentSquirrel=- (Bacon is the only thing that keeps me sane.)
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To: AppyPappy

Why wouldn’t they? I’m sure if one came in their hill, they would.


12 posted on 06/26/2007 6:18:42 AM PDT by Fawn (If it wasn't for FR, I'd be having an Existential MELTDOWN..............right now)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

http://www.amazon.com/Deer-Hunting-Jesus-Dispatches-Americas/dp/030733936X


13 posted on 06/26/2007 6:21:11 AM PDT by Fawn (If it wasn't for FR, I'd be having an Existential MELTDOWN..............right now)
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To: Mr. Jeeves
Some of them would be burning witches before long if there were no laws against it.

Why didn't you warn us before hand that you were an idiot?

14 posted on 06/26/2007 6:22:59 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Fred Thompson is Duncan Hunter without the training wheels)
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Some of them would be burning witches before long if there were no laws against it.

Thank God the secular humanists have saved us Christians from burning witches with their wise laws. And your post wisely generalizes from a troubling set of murders centuries ago by (gasp) Christians to all of us who believe in the bodily resurrection of Jesus. And, the sorry history of humanity related in the Bible and for the past 2,000 years certainly proves that Christians and Jew aren't perfect, or even close.

Trouble is the alternative. When slinging pejoratives about Christians governing themselves, one always has to consider the alternative. And that alternative stares everyone who looks at the history of the 20th century without flinching. The lesson of that century is that when secularists start running things, people die. Lots of them. Huge gigantic bucketsful of dead people. And the deaths aren't accidental. They are in the Name of whatever idea the humanist has dreamed up is his answer to HOW THINGS OUGHT TO BE. As opposed to how things are.

Consider this, at least Christians are violating their God's Law when they commit mass murder. Secularists have no law but their own will and, in the West, maybe a little of Judaeo-Christianity has rubbed off on them. So they comfort theselves thinking that they have ethics, its just that unlike those silly Christians and Jews, they have willed their own ethics into existence.

Consider, westerners in general, and Christians, in particular participated in the almost universally accepted institution of human slavery. For centuries. But eventually, the truth given us in the Bible shamed Christians into forcing the West to give it up. No comparable result has happened in other religions or cultures. Much of Islam still embraces slavery. The humanist states recreated it. Similarly, shameful Christian episodes (like the one you embrace) were stopped by . . . Christians. We didn't need humanists to tell us we were way out of line.

So the issue is not, would some unfettered Christians get out-of-line? Sadly we would. And we explain that as the fallen nature of Man, redeemable only through Grace. The question is, how does a society minimize out-of-line behavior. I would respectfully suggest that turning moral judgment and law over to humanists is perhaps the worst imaginable idea in that regard, at least based on the history of the 20th century.

15 posted on 06/26/2007 6:35:31 AM PDT by ModelBreaker
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When slinging pejoratives about Christians governing themselves, one always has to consider the alternative.

Exactly. As bad as so-called "Christendom" has been over the last 1500 years, secularism/atheism/humanism has done it double in the past 225.

16 posted on 06/26/2007 6:44:27 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Fred Thompson is Duncan Hunter without the training wheels)
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Me, though I was born and raised in SoCal (my mom was born in OK), I call myself a CA Okie. I lived in Bakersfield before all that big money and people came in, and loved the real people that lived there.

I are a redneck.


17 posted on 06/26/2007 7:05:11 AM PDT by wizr (Freedom ain't free.. Common sense ain't common,. Read Jeremiah, Chapters 18 & 19)
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Some of them would be burning witches before long if there were no laws against it.

To be fair to Mr. Jeeves, for his statement to be accurate you only need to find two such people.

And they do exist. However, they're marginal and have no power or influence over 99% of rednecks.

My brother-in-law (during a difficult period in his life) was involved with such a group, and I had extended Biblical discussions with him about their bizarre teachings. They believed all women should stay home, regardless of circumstances, that white people were the chosen people of God, and that all others were "mud people" who should eventually be "gotten rid of." Method left unstated.

They also believed all "witches" should be punished, although I don't recall any actual calls for burning.

He eventually left the group and is now a strong traditional Christian.

18 posted on 06/26/2007 7:08:55 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (Diversity in theory is the enemy of diversity in practice.)
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To: a_chronic_whiner
And my god, the born-again evangelical Christians who are waiting to be sucked up by the Rapture as if by a god-powered Hoovermatic vacuum cleaner.

That is hardly what the average Christian does...most just try to live decent lives for God and their families in a very disturbed culture that was not always so hostile to God.

these sort of ramblings are such a clue as to how little anti-Christians really know about the subject

19 posted on 06/26/2007 7:09:29 AM PDT by wardaddy (free at last...freeat last)
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Yes, you are right about those groups - I assume you're talking about the "Christian" Identity and allied groups? I knew a guy like that back when I was in college who tried to proselytise me to them. I wasn't born-again at the time, and knew next to nothing about the Bible, even though I'd have called myself a Christian even then. This guy made a lot of (as I can see now) out-of-context arguments to try to justify his beliefs, arguments that just wouldn't stand up to systematic study of the Bible as a theological whole.

Perhaps Mr. Jeeves can clarify if he was talking about these groups, of if he was just trying to take an unjustified and simplistic swipe at any conservative Christians? At any rate, I do want to apologise for calling you an idiot, Mr. Jeeves, that was out of line, regardless of your intentions with your original statement.

20 posted on 06/26/2007 7:20:45 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Fred Thompson is Duncan Hunter without the training wheels)
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