Romney: Attacks On Mormon Religion Troubling

CBS 4 MIAMI ^ | 23 JUNE 2007 | AP

[tantiboh]

Today we say, “Must be a feature Microsoft built in.”

[restornu]

I appreciate your kind words, AMPU. I like my hot chocolate like I like my women - sweet and conducive to weight gain.

Some can be bought for Flattery!:)

[restornu]

Sorry I did not know you were a dynasaur in History but revelations was not the Last book in the written it was John’s first book and placed lasted in the Bible.

My dear get with the programZ!:(

[Enosh]

Yehudi did it. ;)

[tantiboh]

~”Yehudi did it. ;)”~

For those not sufficiently fogeyish (such as myself):

http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-yeh1.htm

[Greg F]

Greg, in the context of history, the verse you cite clearly refers to the book of Revelation itself, and not to the Bible as a whole - which didn’t even exist at the time.

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And Smith added to prophecy of the end times and judgment didn’t he? These curses are his.

[Greg F]

If you can definitively show authorship and dating of the gospel of John and Revelation that would be a heroic act of scholarship that would make you world famous. Direct me to the front page stories about you, oh great one!

[aMorePerfectUnion]

Tant,
OK, must be me today, but...

If I hear you correctly, you like ... er,
shall we say, “hefty women”?

Egaads, man! Snap out of it! First the mormonism,
now this!

ampu

[greyfoxx39]

I venture to say that not one thing against any Christian or non Christian religion has been said by any LDS on any of these threads, but that doesn’t seem to register either.

WRONG! And I notice you carefully avoid mentioning the dozens of names that the non-mormons have been called by mormon defenders....
Here is a PARTIAL list since ONLY 5/29

All you Mormon Assaulters have to do is Cut and paste from some anti web site DelphiUser #748 5/30
Henceforth, you and your co-theologians shall be known as the FR Flying Inmans (note, this means the flying imams, wannabe terrorists, mispelled), because in a secular setting you make a big fuss out of religion, and are a threat to hijack.Plutarch #109 5/30
The anti-Mormon mobs (which unfortunately are a lot of evangelical Christians Saundra Duffy #379 5/29(Note to Wita, Evangelical Christians here)
rabid ex-mormons 893 posted on 06/06/2007 4:23:11 PM MDT by George W. Bush
mendacious 143 posted on 06/07/2007 5:21:43 AM MDT by restornu What’s going here furryball? 1,034 posted on 06/07/2007 1:36:31 PM MDT by restornu Trust me you Trinity folks are nil in the scheme of things! 1,057 posted on 06/07/2007 2:27:28 PM MDT by restornu Note: there are many more by restornu.
The Times may be a liberal newspapers, but are not likely composed of disgruntled ex-members and paranoid evangelicals. (Note to Wita, Evangelical Christians) asparagus to degaston 36 posted on 06/11/2007 2:08:21 PM MDT by asparagus
The usual Mormon baiters on FR would make ol’ Lilburn proud. They are truly vile and hateful 124 posted on 06/19/2007 4:09:05 PM MDT by lady lawyer
those who crucified our Lord. That is the company you are keeping when you level that charge, Enosh. 299 posted on 06/19/2007 4:51:26 PM MDT by DanielLongo
You are despicable, disgusting, and a disgrace. If I think of more D’s that fit your kind, I’ll post later. Dumba$$ 318 posted on 06/20/2007 7:54:00 AM MDT by NYC Republican
to enosh 113 posted on 06/30/2007 9:01:01 AM MDT by fightin kentuckian "enosh, alas, not the first nor the last f**tard."

And your own classic, "It is a wonder your head doesn’t explode. You have so much unprocessed trash floating around in there from sources designed to distort confuse and lie to you, that you are a walking talking garbage dump. 1,479 posted on 06/30/2007 1:55:53 PM MDT by wita

And the usual countless..."fraud”, “fake martyr”, "liar", "ignorant" and “un-American!” The all time favorites "Bigot", "basher"

In closing may I quote you, Wita?

"And let me say in closing that this goes for all the rest of the Saturday Mormon Bashing crowd, just so ampu doesn’t feel picked on. I would find it so refreshing to read something positive and uplifting on one of these threads."

Indeed!

[Greg F]

Does it bother you that your church buys up documents related to the history of the church and then hides them so no one can see? What is hidden from you? Why would the true church need to hide anything?

[DanielLongo]

But Hofmann also had three other financial victims: the LDS Church, which owns 446 Hofmann forgeries and whose history was challenged by some of Hofmann's more damaging distortions; coin and document dealer Al Rust; and Provo document collector Brent Ashworth. Ashworth, who says he lost his retirement — about $400,000 — to Hofmann, is a self-deprecating attorney with a passion for old papers. He has walls and file cabinets full of Mormon and Americana documents. He used to have a much bigger collection — an original copy of the 13th Amendment, a handwritten letter written by Abraham Lincoln during the Civil War — but he traded these and more to Hofmann for early LDS documents that turned out to be bogus.

Apparently they were procured by these individuals. There are no statements that the Church spent money on them or any figure as to that assumption. The article you posted yourself said that Hoffman was unable to complete such a transaction. The Church owns many things, particularly of historic value, that were donated or given, that the Church never paid for.

[restornu]

Dang it greyfoxx39, you left out fastcootie, Colorkookie!:)

[restornu]

Does it bother you that your church buys up documents related to the history of the church and then hides them so no one can see? What is hidden from you? Why would the true church need to hide anything?

No and Utah Girl is the historian on this she gave a good updated report a year or so ago!

[Greg F]

No tantiboh, the Christ you have faith in is not one with the Father. John 10:30 He is not eternal, John 1:1. He is not sufficient to save you from all sin (see the Mormon theology of “blood atonement”), see also the wearing of undergarments and tithing required to enter the temple which is required to enter the celestial kingdom. But see John 3:16.

Our Christ is eternal, one with the Father for all of time. The father is creator and God of all the heavens. See Job 38:30, not just God of one planet, and not one god among millions or billions or even just 3.

That is the danger for you. You worship what you do not know and turn for understanding to a false prophet. That’s why we talk to you and hope you see . . . We aren’t the judge. Christ is.

[greyfoxx39]

See my #1569

[MHGinTN]

Did you ping that one to #1569 ?

[Greg F]

Apparently they were procured by these individuals. There are no statements that the Church spent money on them or any figure as to that assumption. The article you posted yourself said that Hoffman was unable to complete such a transaction. The Church owns many things, particularly of historic value, that were donated or given, that the Church never paid for.
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Yuppers. Make it a two step transaction and the Mormon faithful are gullible enough to ignore huge numbers of documents hidden from view and still unavailable in Church archives . . . Are you allowed to look at the 1908 McLellin collection? Wasn’t that collection purchased by the church itself?

[DanielLongo]

He didn't add anything to Revelation. Besides which the verse about the Twelve Apostles as judges would add to Revelation by that same reasoning.

and any of his followers

Now you are adding to the The Revelation. LOL!

[Greg F]

And why didn’t the Church allow the release of the 1908 papers in the middle of a criminal trial against a forger that had ripped off the church and murdered people? Why does a true Church have to hide its history?

[greyfoxx39]

Oh, yeah, one of the classics.