Posted on 06/22/2007 5:00:23 AM PDT by Brilliant
“To figure out exactly what is happening, we need improved models and more atmospheric observations.”
But Al Gore says we already know what is happening and we’re all doomed.
Winston Churchill, if alive today, would have issued this quote: "Never have so many been wrong about so much..."
Maybe the models are wrong in their many assumptions.
That’s an interesting article. But the many references to “computer models” as though they were living oracles bother me. Computer models are merely tools. If someone using a computer model finds that it gives results that differ from measured results, then the computer model is simply wrong in one or many aspects. Computer models don’t tell you anything. People who use computer models may have opinions based on those models.
Say what? Did you mean “Global Warming is the result of the Sun warming the Earth, not the result of carbon dioxide”?
Growing more forests in United States could contribute to global warming (Save Earth! Cut trees!)
Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory ^ | December 5, 2005 | Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1534904/posts
Whooops. So are the carbon credit companies going to have to find some other way than (supposedly) planting a tree when you (or the US House of Representatives) buy an offset?
Just noting this study is quoting NET absorption.
Vegetation takes in about 62 billion tons of carbon each year and releases 60 billion tons back. Oceans have similar numbers with 92 billion going in and 90 billion being released.
Those figures can be compared to human emissions which are about 7.5 billion tons a year right now. So trees and oceans are absorbing on a net basis about 4.0 billion of the 7.5 billion tons of carbon we are releasing each year but the totals involved in the carbon cycle dwarf human figures. It is just that we are adding more to a system which was more-or-less in balance. That could change however.
If anyone has a link to the study, or access to Science magazine, I’d be interested in the actual CO2 concentration figures they measured in this study.
The missing carbonFor years, one of the biggest mysteries in climate science has been the question of what ultimately happens to the carbon emitted by motor vehicles, factories, deforestation, and other sources. Of the approximately 8 billion tons of carbon emitted each year, about 40 percent accumulates in the atmosphere and about 30 percent is absorbed by the oceans. Scientists believe that terrestrial ecosystems, especially trees, take up the remainder.
Missing Carbon?!? Small potatoes.
90% of the Universe is missing. Ponder that you 'climate science' guys (Oh, and get a real job).
Actually he is just an oxygen load. Nothing moore.
It’s even worse than that..
People who WRITE computer models HAVE opinions based on those models that they write, and get MORE money FROM those computer models when they write computer models that make results that the get those funds.
I’m being cynical of course: but re-read the baseline article to see HOW MANY assumptions proved wrong by how many hundreds of times: 1.8 BILLION assumed tons becomes merely one million tons... Vertical paths were ignored.
30% of the carbon emitted by man (in TODAY’S emissions!) is “lost” yet the enviro’s are demanding that we crash the economy to reduce emissions by 2% ?
“human emissions...”
I would think that as long as the world’s population is growing (and not getting skinnier), the net human emissions are negative. Maybe that’s where the sink is.
During the day when the Sun is overhead, it seems to get warmer; when the Sun is gone it gets cooler.
I think you may have come up the smoking gun; the Sun is the cause of Global Climate change.
Bingo!! We have a winner!!
“Net Human emissions” =
- 1/100th of the total population dies each year, 70 million people, at 150 pounds (.07 tons), with 20% of that Carbon by weight, equals net human absorption of carbon buried each year in graves...
= Only 1 million tons. LOL.
Actually, when it's winter in the northern hemisphere, the earth is closer to the sun than it is in the summer. It's just that because of the tilt of the earth, the sun's rays hit more directly in the northern hemisphere during the summer. Southern hemisphere seems to have more extreme temperatures -- when the earth is closer to the sun, they're getting the direct summer rays, and vice versa.
Of course, most of what I know about southern hemisphere temperatures is from reading The Thorn Birds years ago! ;-)
Methane.
He’s a methane load.
They don’t have to die, though. As long as the aggregate weight of the carbon incorporated into human beings is increasing, that’s carbon that won’t be in the atmosphere.
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