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Study: Inkjet printers are filthy, lying thieves
Ars Technica ^ | 6/18/07 | Ken Fisher

Posted on 06/21/2007 1:05:59 PM PDT by TChris

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To: Blue Highway

ping


121 posted on 06/21/2007 5:05:05 PM PDT by perfect stranger
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To: cabojoe

“Does anyone here refill their own cartridges?”

Yes. I have an HP printer and have been refilling cartridges ever since I got it 3 years ago.

I use ink refill kits from Mr. Inkjet and I have had no problems.

It works very well unless you let a cartridge run completely dry.

I’ve saved the cost of the printer several times over.


122 posted on 06/21/2007 5:36:51 PM PDT by EEDUDE (The more I know, the less I understand...)
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To: alnick
Just look for the little black "u" shaped block... you don't even need to have an ink tank in, just block the sensor with a little piece of rolled up paper... works like a champ


123 posted on 06/21/2007 5:46:07 PM PDT by tophat9000 (My 2008 grassroots Republican platform: Build the fence, enforce the laws, and win the damm WAR!)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
I have two strategies to beat the cartridge reuse:

Have three cartridges to run through the memory of two (some don't even have to print)

Get the printer to offer up the cartridges for replacement. Pull the power plug. refill the cartridge and replace in printer. Put the power plug back into the socket.

124 posted on 06/21/2007 5:57:08 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Islam is the religion of violins, NOT peas.)
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To: Revel
Especially the C84-c85-c86 line.(Every year they bump the model number up by one.) They are crap!!!!

That line works just fine if you give them the proper TLC. Print something in full color every few days, once a week at least. Turn the printer off when not in use. Keep it covered when not in use. Learn how to clean clogged jets. (Yes, they clog more than other brands, but that's because they have finer jets. See my earlier posts for links on cleaning out clogs.)

Epson stylus printers can't be beat for photo printing in the same price range.

125 posted on 06/21/2007 7:05:48 PM PDT by TChris (The Republican Party is merely the Democrat Party's "away" jersey - Vox Day)
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To: newgeezer

Or the printers that come with no black ink at all.


126 posted on 06/21/2007 7:06:07 PM PDT by Blue Highway
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To: TChris

I gave up on the inkjets last year, They just cost too much. Paper and ink probably run 12 cents and page. I bought a cheap $129 HP laserjet and now the cost runs about 3 cents a page. I still have the inkjet around, but we only use it when we can’t live without the color.


127 posted on 06/21/2007 7:13:58 PM PDT by BuffaloJack
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To: newgeezer

I have an old Epson Stylus Color 880 that was a freebie. The output came out striped so I figured it needed new ink. The new ink it better but it still has sort of a striped appearance. How do you remove the pads to clean?


128 posted on 06/21/2007 7:17:52 PM PDT by Blue Highway
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To: LegendHasIt

Wow I remember the Commodore 128. My cousin had one after his C-64 got a little outdated. I remember my first printer back in the day for my Atari 600 and 130XE was a Star Micronics SG-10 dot matrix. Used standard type-writer ribbons. Probably still works like a champ. Been in storage since 1990.


129 posted on 06/21/2007 7:43:51 PM PDT by Blue Highway
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To: WLR
I bought a Samsung ML-2010 Laser printer November 2005 and I am still using the "starter" toner cartridge it came with. Works like a charm.

I think the starter cartridge is rated for 300 pages and I know I must have printed more than that by now.

As far as the higher up front costs I got it from Best Buy during "Black Friday" and I think after rebates it was less than $40.

130 posted on 06/21/2007 7:50:37 PM PDT by Blue Highway
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To: Blue Highway

Yeah, I started with a Commodore VIC-20, Moved up to a 64, then a 128 That 128 was a giant leap forward for me. An Amiga a couple of years later. Also had one of those little Sinclairs and an Apple II in there for a while.

I think I had one of those Star Micronics SG-10s too, until I had to start printing professional looking business letters and bought a Daisy Wheel. Man, that thing was slow.


131 posted on 06/21/2007 8:34:35 PM PDT by LegendHasIt
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To: LegendHasIt

Back in the day on the Commodore and Atari the leading printing applications were Print Shop by Broderbund and Main Street Press or something like that.


132 posted on 06/21/2007 8:37:45 PM PDT by Blue Highway
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To: TChris

And the C88 will mix ink when the black is out.


133 posted on 06/21/2007 8:42:28 PM PDT by skr (Car bombs and IEDs are the exclamation marks for the latest Democrats' talking points.)
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To: TChris

Ink jets cost 8 cents/page.
Laser printers cost 1.3 cents/page.


134 posted on 06/21/2007 8:43:48 PM PDT by Trteamer ( (Eat Meat, Wear Fur, Own Guns, FReep Leftists, Drive an SUV, Drill A.N.W.R., Drill the Gulf, Vote)
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To: Blue Highway
I have an old Epson Stylus Color 880 that was a freebie. The output came out striped so I figured it needed new ink. The new ink it better but it still has sort of a striped appearance. How do you remove the pads to clean?

I didn't remove the pad(s). I just dripped the Windex on it like the instructions said to do.

If you Google "epson windex" (without the quotes), I'm sure any number of sites will provide you with the instructions you need. You might even try first including your printer model number in the search terms (epson 880 windex), and see what comes up. If that doesn't work, try it without the model number.

135 posted on 06/21/2007 9:12:39 PM PDT by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary.)
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To: TChris

The last one(C86)(and 3rd one) that my brother bought acted up in less than a year. He was foolish enough to go out and buy a whole new set of ink cartridges and install them. It did not help. We tried to run the cleaning cycles numerous times. It did not help. I, and the guy at staples finally convinced him to buy an HP(with separate ink cartridges). He has had no problems so far. It has only been about 6 months. In all of the years I have had my HP(with a tri color cartridge) I have never even had to run through a cleaning cycle. Even after not printing for a few months. It still starts right up and prints well.
My first printer was a cannon bjc 610 that had separate ink cartridges. I got that in 1995. I paid over $400.00 for it and it failed in about 3 years. Plus the ink would just evaporate in a couple of months even if you did not print with it. So the HP has been really good to me. I am only on my third set of cartridges with it. I thought I had that for about six years, but I got to thinking it was my second printer, and I just looked it up, and I got it in 1999. So the DeskJet printer is 8 years old. You can’t knock that.


136 posted on 06/21/2007 9:21:42 PM PDT by Revel
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To: Woodman

I believe they did. Thee technology isn’t new per-say, but compared to inkjet and laser printing, this one has a lot to go before prices can fall.


137 posted on 06/21/2007 9:45:49 PM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: Woodman

I believe one of those solid ink printers can be had for $600 now.


138 posted on 06/21/2007 9:47:16 PM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: tophat9000
Plus brother ink cartridges can be had a 5 to 6 a pop on the net and are a easy refill because there just plastic tanks, no electronics... The brother are dirt cheap to run

Elsewhere in the thread, I have documented my nightmarish experiences of using third-party ink in my Brother multifunction printer.

Out of curiosity, what Brother printer do you have (or, what cartridge series does it use) and whose ink and/or compatible cartridges have you used in it?

139 posted on 06/22/2007 9:15:02 AM PDT by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary.)
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To: Spruce
LOL, you read my mind. Gangland-style massacre of the fax machine in “Office Space.”
140 posted on 06/23/2007 3:07:36 PM PDT by anymouse
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