Posted on 06/17/2007 6:54:37 PM PDT by Rodney King
Dismissive? Like when He red from Isiah? Careful.
If you believe that the Bible is literal and always correct go back and read the three things the Bible got wrong that I posted at the beginning of this debate. These three things are proof that the Bible is not the literal truth. If the Bible is not correct on every point then there are two possibilities.
1. the Bible is false
2. the Bible (especially the old testament) is not to be taken as literal truth but as parable or allegory.
Number 2 is the correct rational answer.
OK, I'll bite. Into the oceans.
You didn't ask for proof. You asked for "1 bit of evidence." I provided that. There is a lot more where that came from.
Are you someone who will deny any evidence he doesn't like? Just wave it all away?
Yes, He read from Isiah to illustrate a point that the people were acting like brained numbed robots just as was written in Isiah.
Jesus used a cultural reference the people would be familiar with just as I might quote “Bender” when I tell all YEC to “bite my shiny metal a$$”. :)
” OK, I’ll bite. Into the oceans.’
Didn’t you read the warning on the back of the seat in front of you?
“In the event of a global flood, please do not empty containers into the ocean, as they will already be filled past overflowing.”
Speaking of “Bender”, are you drinking?
Moses said alot of stuff and I bet you don’t believe everybody that said God dictated stuff too them. Mohammed said God dictated the Koran letter by letter to him also, do you believe that?
Moses may have gotten some inspiration but God doesn’t work that way (literal letter by letter inspiration). He didn’t work that way then and he doesn’t work that way now. If he did God would have an internet connection and have 24/7 biblical tech support online.
Their souls are endangered because not everyone sees the world as they do? Perhaps you might want to rethink that whole seeing the world more clearly thing. If the intelligent can lose their souls because of the archaic and ignorant beliefs of others, I don't think they were so intelligent to being with.
I apologize if I have offended you, truly. It is not my intent. I do believe in a strict literal interpetation as it refers to grammar. Such as word structure, word meanings, sentence structure, metaphors, hyperbolies etc. The translations are not inerrant, but they are the best we have. Therefore, it is imperitive that our understanding in english be derived from the language in which the Bible was written, Hebrew and Greek. For example, the word “love” in Greek has seven different meanings, from a eternal love to a brotherly love. I only believe the clearest interpetation of what the Scripture says, and desire to conform my life to that.
As to believing what you want, we cannot fall into the trap of postmodernity which shrugs off absolute truth- You believe what you want, I’ll believe what I want. There must be absolute truth, or there is no distinction between us and animals - survival of the fittest. The Scriptures are clear, God created.
Thanks for going into the realm of personal attack real Christian of you.
Sorry but your belief in a young Earth does nothing but drive people from a faith in God. You’re like the vendors at the Temple Gate you distract from the work of God.
I was hoping for your sake that the answer was, “yes”.
LOL!! The point I was hoping to make is that the dimensions and depth of the oceans is not necessarily a constant. If oceans are deeper, mountains are higher, then volume capacity of the oceans has changed. But in the end, we are speaking of miracle, which is by definition beyond naturalistic resolution.
” If he did God would have an internet connection and have 24/7 biblical tech support online.”
LOL
Can’t you just imagine?
“This iz biblical tech supporting, Jeremiah speaking. How may I render assistanze to you todeh?”
“You sure do have a heavy Pakistani accent to be named Jeremiah, Jeremiah.”
So??? Animals are all different. I would hope that was obvious. I choose to read the passage as a whole, in context. I see nothing about evolution, but I do hear the part about victory over death through belief in Jesus. “But thanks be to God! He gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.” I don’t see where it says except for those who believe in evolution.
I will continue to do God’s work, and to strenghthen my faith through prayer etc. I look forward to salvation, as Jesus talked about. None of it requires that I must disregard years of scientific evidence.
Also BTW just to clarify things you Young Earth Creationistas are a bit light in the loafers on evidence when you don’t even try to argue against the three obvious things the Bible got wrong from the first page of this debate. Sorry but if you can’t even make an argument in defense of the “BIBLE AS LITERAL TRUTH” how the heck are you going to find evidence that the world is a measly 6,000 years old. I have pottery older than that sitting on my desk. :)
I was hoping for your sake your belief in a young earth was just as a devils advocate position rather than a serious mental defect. Sorry, mental defect or educational ignoramus seems to be the appropriate prognosis.
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