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Taping was legal, defense attorneys in wiretap case say[Taped Police-7yrs Jail]{Pennsylvania}
The Patriot News ^
| 14 June 2007
| Matt Miller
Posted on 06/14/2007 8:40:57 AM PDT by BGHater
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posted on
06/14/2007 8:41:01 AM PDT
by
BGHater
To: BGHater
The police seriously over stepped on this one.
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posted on
06/14/2007 8:43:46 AM PDT
by
PeterFinn
(Oderint Dum Metuant - "Let them Hate, as long as they Fear.")
To: BGHater
I want that jack booted thug fired.
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posted on
06/14/2007 8:44:11 AM PDT
by
rednesss
To: BGHater
If you can photograph people and film people in public without their consent, why can't you tape them as well?
This case doesn't make much sense.
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posted on
06/14/2007 8:45:20 AM PDT
by
wideawake
("Pearl Harbor is all America's fault, right, Mommy?" - Ron Paul, age 6, 12/7/1941)
To: wideawake
Local officers really don’t want to be recorded by the general public on a regular basis. I think this trial is all about preventing it from becoming commonplace.
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posted on
06/14/2007 8:47:07 AM PDT
by
Oberon
(What does it take to make government shrink?)
To: BGHater
the law forbids recording without consent?
Does that mean that the use of video cameras routinely used in squad cars are breaking the law? Or do they first ask the suspected perp permission - (TIC)
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posted on
06/14/2007 8:50:43 AM PDT
by
maine-iac7
( "...but you can't fool all of the people all the time." LINCOLN)
To: Oberon
Local officers really dont want to be recorded by the general public on a regular basis. Well you can't put Cops back in the bottle.
Bad, boys, bad boys, whatch'yu gonna do when they come for you . . .
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posted on
06/14/2007 8:51:25 AM PDT
by
wideawake
("Pearl Harbor is all America's fault, right, Mommy?" - Ron Paul, age 6, 12/7/1941)
To: wideawake
If you can photograph people and film people in public without their consent, why can't you tape them as well?Exactly - what about all the cams now taping the publics every move in most cities? They never asking MY permission. Any of You ever been asked?
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posted on
06/14/2007 8:52:30 AM PDT
by
maine-iac7
( "...but you can't fool all of the people all the time." LINCOLN)
To: BGHater
Any time you get pulled over these days you’re basically on candid camera. Squad cars are all video equipped both for evidence gathering & the officer/trooper’s safety.
You have to wonder how it’s legal for the state to tape a traffic stop, but not for the person being stopped.
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posted on
06/14/2007 8:54:21 AM PDT
by
Tallguy
(Climate is what you plan for, weather is what you get.)
To: maine-iac7
Exactly - what about all the cams now taping the publics every move in most cities? They never asking MY permission. Any of You ever been asked?What does that tell you? Your so-called "expectation of privacy" is shrinking year-by-year.
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posted on
06/14/2007 8:56:12 AM PDT
by
Tallguy
(Climate is what you plan for, weather is what you get.)
To: All
You have to wonder how its legal for the state to tape a traffic stop, but not for the person being stopped.Exactly. It would make no sense for the servants (employees of the state) to have more powers than we, their masters.
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posted on
06/14/2007 8:59:42 AM PDT
by
Still Thinking
(Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
To: BGHater
"Pennsylvania is a state that says all [recordings of conversations] require prior consent. But you have to have the expectation of privacy first," Grill said.
Its the same here in Florida.
But here is the ultimate question: What on earth is so damaging or egregeous that doing so can or should result in a prison sentence, let alone seven years in prison? Doing this for the purpose of blackmail would seem to qualify as blackmail. Why is this not just simply a civil tort? Someone, anyone have an explanation as to why someone who did this is so dangerous or so wrong that they should go to prison? People convicted of mansalughter or some sex crimes can get less than seven years.
To: BGHater
Hey the “Cruiser Cam” gets to film you, why can’t my “mini van cam” film them...
The cop needs to be busted down to “Mall Ninja Security Guard” complete with duct taped plates and tactical wheel barrow...
To: rednesss
The DA is the one who accepted the charges and should be the first to be fired. The tape is evidence gathering and should be allowed just like DWI tapes in trials. It’s a sad state of affairs for this to occur.
To: maine-iac7
There is a legal difference between video recording and audio recording. You are generally on safer ground if the sound is turned off.
Laws also vary from state to state.
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posted on
06/14/2007 9:20:58 AM PDT
by
PAR35
To: Orange1998
There was a case in Massachusetts a few years ago concerning a guy who recorded the cops during a traffic stop. The cops accused him of using\selling drugs etc. The courts defended the cops in this case and wouldn’t allow the tape to be used in his defense. Maybe someone else remembers this.
I’m as much a Law-and-Order guy as the next Conservative but cops outta control make my blood boil
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posted on
06/14/2007 9:23:52 AM PDT
by
Paisan
To: Oberon
Police unions don’t want their members held accountable.
To: BGHater
Cop should be fired pronto.
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posted on
06/14/2007 9:27:14 AM PDT
by
Sloth
(The GOP is to DemonRats in politics as Michael Jackson is to Jeffrey Dahmer in babysitting.)
To: BGHater
What if you have a camera hidden in your home, and catch someone breaking into your house and stealing something. Can you be charged under this law?
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posted on
06/14/2007 9:57:05 AM PDT
by
Husker24
To: Paisan
Police that are out of control hurt all of us. This case is a great example of the “do as I say” attitude on behalf of a lot of our gubmint agencies at the local, state and federal levels.The only way to stop it is to raise holy hell and keep raising it at every opportunity you get.
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posted on
06/14/2007 10:00:34 AM PDT
by
geezerwheezer
(get up boys, we're burnin' daylight!!!)
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