Posted on 06/13/2007 10:50:47 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
When you hear someone cast the opponents of amnesty as nativists you know the writer is not just hopelessly liberal but also profoundly ignorant of the country in which presides.
That’s the dems and RINOs agenda. They are all singing from the same choir book...
A lot of articles like this are painting all those who oppose the immigration reform bill as xenophobes. Not too many people actively hate immigrants. But a lot of people would like to see more respect for the rule of law.
The dems and RINOs expect us to roll over to a massive invasion of our country. Never before in history have 30-60 million people been allowed to cross a border without permission and then offered free amnesty! Unbelievable!
Just say NO to Amnesty!! Keep calling!! Its NOT OVER!!
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U.S. House switchboard: (202) 225-3121
White House comments: (202) 456-1111
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Evidently the idea that we wish to CONSERVE our culture and history is foreign to the elite.
Last Friday Rush was gone. I didn’t put much stake into what followed.
That’s because they live behind the walls of gated communities and other sanctuaries. This amnesty will not cause them the problems it will us; on the contrary, they stand to make trillions of dollars from it!! I hate class warfare, but enough is enough!!
This is from May, I posted it because of the analysis from a left-wing columnist that shows a different point of view.
There is a great article describing "liberals" by a liberal and this can be found HERE.
Note that "liberals" have an average income of 71,000, are the best educated with one fourth having post graduate degrees. Further, the 50%+ of the workers in 1967 were working in manufacturing. Now only 9% are. Liberals are the present ruling elite opinion makers of this country. They have little or no contact with working class people.
To me, it seems the liberals are touting this for the reasons described but also as a function of class--upwardly mobile, well educated elite people need labor to meet their service needs. What better labor can you find than the cheap, Latino variety.
Call me silly, but those are the core of the GOP from 1860 onwards.
What steams me the most about this immigration bill is the dishonesty of it all. President Bush and the other backers of the bill apparently believe that the US needs a very large inflow of new immigrants and that the current laws stand in the way. Instead of going to the Amercian people and trying to make the case that not only do we need the current 12-20 million illegals, but that we need still million more, they have embarked on a course to deceive us with the smoke and mirrors of a “comprehensive” plan that pretends to increase enforcement while actually keeping the border open. It is this sort of deception and manipulation that causes the public to become disenchanted and resentful of government and politicians.
For a few weeks now I've been saying this and never, ever got even a single reply.
But, erroneously I said only 30 million new voters, not 41 million.
Ultimately, there's votes to be had, we're screwed.
I am so disgusted with this immigration plan and the RINO’s and Bush’s support for it that I try to convince myself that this is some devious Rovian scheme to fire up conservatives to sweep us back into power in 08. /wishful thinking
Oh, and what about the country, the economy, the iniation of a two-tier system where some follow the laws and others have free reign to do as they please?
It takes only a few idiots to destroy a country.
Seems we have both parties willing to turn the country over to illegals and make us pay for it.
Didn’t read it, but didn’t “Salon” go broke?
Calling your opponents “racist” is SOP for the left (and RINOS).
You cannot keep a country if you allow 400,000 to come over th border without going through our immigration screenings as other immigrants do.
If this is not stopped, all will come over the border rather than go through immigration.
And, why would they want to become legal and have to pay taxes when they can be illegal and get everything free?
What makes anyone think they will honor the laws, if they are told come on over and ignore our laws, do not pay taxes, use our entitlement system freely without limitation. They would be fools to become citizens.
The Democrats used to present themselves as the saviors of Social Security. I do not hear talk of the cost of this bill to entitlement programs. If Amnesty passes as proposed, Social Security will be bankrupt sooner rather than later, not only social security but every other entitlement program on the books. I see this bill as an expansion of the social welfare state and therefore an expansion of government and as government expands so does the power of government at the expense of the power of the people. This is a power grab by the lovers of big government. Illegal immigrants are undereducated and low skilled and high maintenance users of government services. Illegal immigrants will trend Democratic big time, and just on those purely selfish political grounds any Republican with common sense should be against it, not to mention principles such as rule of law and secure borders against drugs, terrorism, and illegals.
And those votes will be the votes that finalize our loss of the democracy.
“Complacency & Apathy
About the time our original thirteen states adopted their
new constitution i n 1787, Alexander Tyler, a Scottish
history professor at the University of Edinburgh, had this
to say about the fall of the Athenian Republic some
2,000 years earlier:
“A democracy is always temporary in nature;
it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government.”
“A democracy will continue to exist up until the
time that voters discover they can vote themselves
generous gifts from the public treasury.”
“From that moment on, the majority always vote for
the candidates who promise the most benefits from
the public treasury, with the result that every
democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal
policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship.”
“The average age of the world’s greatest
civilizations from the beginning of history, has
been about 200 year s.”
“During those 200 years, those nations always
progressed through the following sequence:
1. from bondage to spiritual faith;
2. from spiritual faith to great courage;
3. from courage to liberty;
4. from liberty to abundance;
5. from abundance to complacency;
6 from complacency to apathy;
7. from apathy to dependence;
8. From dependence back into bondage”
Professor Joseph Olson of Hamline University
School of Law, St.Paul, Minnesota, points out
some interesting facts concerning the 2000
Presidential election:
Number of States won by:
Gore: 19
Bush: 29
Square miles of land won by:
Gore: 580,000
Bush: 2,427,000
Population of counties won by:
Gore: 127 million
Bush: 143 million
Murder rate per 100,000 residents in counties won by:
Gore: 13.2
Bush: 2.1
Professor Olson adds: “In aggregate, the map of
the territory Bush won was mostly the land owned by
the taxpaying citizens of this great country. Gore’s
territory mostly encompassed those citizens living
in government-owned tenements and living off various
forms of government welfare...”
Olson believes the United States is now somewhere
between the “complacency and apathy” phase of
Professor Tyler’s definition of democracy, with some
forty percent of the nation’s population already
having reached the “governmental dependency” phase.
If Congress grants amnesty and citizenship to
twenty-million criminal invaders called illegal’s and
they vote, then we can say good-bye to the USA in
fewer than five years.”
ping
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