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Romney candidacy has resurrected last days prophecy of Mormon saving the Constitution
The Salt Lake Tribune ^ | June 4, 2007 | Thomas Burr

Posted on 06/08/2007 10:35:59 AM PDT by Colofornian

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To: nowandlater
Jeremiah and Isaiah faced days when the iniquity of the people brought the Israelites to ruin. I will follow my Lord. I will not support evil.

The three front runners have opposed different portions of the constitution. Just as David could not oppose Saul, whom God had anointed over Israel, we are to follow the ruler God has appointed over the United States. In our Case the ruler is not a man, but a document called the constitution. God removed Saul, but as of yet the constitution still stands. When David was old, and by sin had squandered his responsibilities, many people supported Absolom in a bid to take the throne. A majority did actually. Read the books of chronicles to see how that worked out.

In the next election I will support a conservative constitutionalist. If neither major party submits one, well this won't be the first time. I can vote write in or third party. I can be certain though that the God of Abraham, Jacob, and Isaac does not wish me to support an abortionist, an advocate for homosexuality. Nor does he want me to vote for someone who wishes to overthrow the constitution outside the amendment process. That eliminates all of the democrats, and Rudy, McCain, and Romney.

Semper Fidelis

81 posted on 06/08/2007 5:12:56 PM PDT by MrEdd (L. Ron Gore creator of "Fry-n-tology" the global warming religion.)
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To: MrEdd
From the website http://www.evangelicalsformitt.org/front_page/what_does_ezra_have_to_tell_us.php

WHAT DOES EZRA HAVE TO TELL US?

While some of our e-mailers seem to think we here at EFM are Mormons, we are evangelical Christians, which means we think reading the Bible is important. Which is why the other morning I was reading through the book of Ezra, which then was one of the remaining Old Testament books with which I was unfamilar. (My current project is working through those.) But before beginning Ezra, I read the introductory notes in The MacArthur Study Bible, in which I found the following passage to be rather striking:

The decrees, proclamations, letters, lists, genealogies, and memoranda, many of them written by the Persian administration, attest to the sovereign hand of God in Israel's restoration. The primary message of the book is that God orchestrated the past grim situation (captivity) and would continue to work through a pagan king and his successors to give Judah hope for the future (return). God's administration overrides that of any of the kings of this world, and thus the book of Ezra is a message of God's continuing covenant grace to Israel.

Why was this striking? Well, as we discuss Gov. Romney with evangelicals across the country, one frequent refrain is that folks want some sort of example from Scripture that God has worked through unbelieving rulers to the benefit of His people. And as MacArthur brilliantly points out, in Ezra (the book, not the man) we have just such an example. As the book begins:

In the first year of Cyrus king of Persia, that the word of the Lord by the mouth of Jeremiah might be fulfilled, the Lord stirred up the spirit of Cyrus king of Persia, so that he made a proclamation throughout all his kingdom and also put it in writing:

“Thus says Cyrus king of Persia: The Lord, the God of heaven, has given me all the kingdoms of the earth, and he has charged me to build him a house at Jerusalem, which is in Judah. Whoever is among you of all his people, may his God be with him, and let him go up to Jerusalem, which is in Judah, and rebuild the house of the Lord, the God of Israel--he is the God who is in Jerusalem. And let each survivor, in whatever place he sojourns, be assisted by the men of his place with silver and gold, with goods and with beasts, besides freewill offerings for the house of God that is in Jerusalem.”

So God worked through Cyrus--and his successors--to bring the exiles back to Jerusalem. To my mind, this data point thoroughly dispels the idea that our almighty Lord can or will only work through a leader with certain views. If He wants to, He can, because He can do all things--and He has done this particular thing before. Period. The only question is whether He wants to bless his people through the man whose picture can be found at the top of this site--and if we thought the answer to that question were clearly "no," we wouldn't be here.

Of course, this whole line of logic is predicated upon the idea that terms like "pagan" or "unbeliever" do indeed apply to Gov. Romney. To be clear, the man has made public professions that his eternal hope lies in Jesus, and I don't think it's my place--or that of anyone else on this earth--to judge whether those professions are true. Yes, Mormonism is absolutely not orthodox Christianity. As we have said before, we have profound doctrinal differences with the man we support for president. Do doctrinal deficiencies make any real reliance on the cross impossible? In general, I don't think so. I disagree in major ways with Roman Catholic doctrine--in fact, I was raised in the Roman church and (obviously) have left it--but I do think there is such thing as a believing Roman Catholic (although I was emphatically not one). Yes, in general they believe some things that are not true, but some have the important part (Jesus) right. As for this specific case, I don't know, and it's not really my business either way.

So let's put that aside, because any way you slice it, examining Ezra shows that the idea that God can only work through an orthodox leader is clearly not biblical. Our Lord worked through Cyrus and his successors; certainly He could work through a President Romney, too. And should there be a President Romney, it will only be because He allowed it to happen. Of both of these we have absolute conviction, and the rest is gravy.


82 posted on 06/08/2007 7:28:49 PM PDT by nowandlater
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God can, and does work through even his bitter enemies, like pharaoh, and Satan himself. Not one word of your post counters the fact that I as a believer am not to support the unrighteous. Romney, in countering the bill of rights outside the amendment process is revealed to be a follower of Absalom. And in supporting giving homosexuals access to children has condoned an evil that I can never be part of. There is no counter for that. No children are to be sacrificed on the alter of Mitt's political ambition.

Mormonism has no relation to these actions. These are Mitt's choices, not dictated by his religion. I would never vote for Mitt, and it is because of the things he does and the positions he takes.

83 posted on 06/08/2007 8:06:30 PM PDT by MrEdd (L. Ron Gore creator of "Fry-n-tology" the global warming religion.)
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To: MrEdd

More power to you!

But before you condemn him so easily to the ash heap, please look here at he actually said, it is totally different than what is reported. Imagine that! Lies and distortion about what he actually said. It just shows that the Liberals are scared of him. Just because he is Mormon, don’t let that colorblind you of what the Libs are trying to do.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnMt2BnZXUI


84 posted on 06/09/2007 4:42:50 PM PDT by nowandlater
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To: Colofornian

You know - the Senate majority leader is a Mormon and his politics bother me a hundred times more than his religion.


85 posted on 06/09/2007 4:45:01 PM PDT by gondramB (Do not do to others as you would not wish done to yourself. Thus no murmuring will rise against you.)
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86 posted on 06/10/2007 8:02:21 AM PDT by MrEdd (L. Ron Gore creator of "Fry-n-tology" the global warming religion.)
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To: Colofornian

I just saw this post, sorry its a late reply...but its a joke...right? Like scrapple face?


87 posted on 07/13/2007 7:29:02 AM PDT by svcw (There is no plan B.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Any means to the end.


88 posted on 07/13/2007 7:33:35 AM PDT by stevio ((NRA))
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