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Microsoft's Protection Racket? [Yet another Linux vendor sells out to Microsoft.]
Forbes ^ | June 4 2007 | Brian Caulfield

Posted on 06/07/2007 10:27:53 AM PDT by bigdcaldavis

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1 posted on 06/07/2007 10:27:54 AM PDT by bigdcaldavis
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To: bigdcaldavis

It’s not like Microsoft violated any Apple patents!


2 posted on 06/07/2007 10:32:23 AM PDT by DaveyB (Ignorance is part of the human condition - atheism makes it permanent!)
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And it’s not like Apple violated Xerox’s patents. (Or did Xerox never patent their GUI?)


3 posted on 06/07/2007 10:38:06 AM PDT by bigdcaldavis ("I'm not some candy-assed white liberal looking to turn you into better citizens." - Martin Querns)
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To: bigdcaldavis; Halfmanhalfamazing; Golden Eagle
ALL YOUR LINUX DISTROS ARE BELONG TO US !!!

 

4 posted on 06/07/2007 10:43:32 AM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: bigdcaldavis

Off the top of my head, I don’t think Xerox ever did patent their work on the GUI, for several reasons. Software was not generally considered patentable at that time, and certainly general concepts like the desktop metaphor, GUI tool kits, etc, weren’t. Also, IIRC, I believe Apple actually bought some of this technology from Xerox. As I say, though, that’s purely off the top of my head.


5 posted on 06/07/2007 10:49:27 AM PDT by -YYZ- ("My Rocinante" sailed by night on her final flight...)
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To: bigdcaldavis
"Give us money now and we promise not to sue"

Definitely worthy of the Sopranos.

6 posted on 06/07/2007 10:50:49 AM PDT by Clock King (Bring the noise!)
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To: bigdcaldavis

My guess is that within ten years, Windows will be a GUI running on top of Linux or some flavor of Unix.

A first step could be something like BootCamp. You could boot Linux, allow it to manage security, and let a light version of Windows launch the apps. Windows used to run under DOS, so it’s been done before.


7 posted on 06/07/2007 10:55:57 AM PDT by js1138 (The absolute seriousness of someone who is terminally deluded.)
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Quire frankly I see it as an intelligent move on Microsoft’s part.

The agreement basically says that MS won’t sue for patent infringement, and Xandros (as well as Novell from the previous agreement) get to make an operating system that will play more friendly in a Windows environment.

Quite frankly, from a marketing stand point, it’s a good thing for Novell and Xandros, they can claim greater compatibility with Microsoft, which is a boon in the corporate and home computer markets.

And Microsoft is protecting it’s own patents in the process.

And as for MS stealing Apple’s patents, never happened, Apple sued MS over “Look and feel” of it’s desktop interface, anyone who knows computers to any extent knows the the underling technology behind Windows and the Mac OS are completely different beasts running (previously to Mac going to Intel) different processor architectures.

In the end, Apple stole from Xerox, Microsoft Stole from Apple, and they all stole from IBM.


8 posted on 06/07/2007 11:10:24 AM PDT by gjones77
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To: bigdcaldavis

If Microsoft starts throwing around Linux lawsuits, it might be time to take a look at antitrust action again.


9 posted on 06/07/2007 11:13:38 AM PDT by mysterio
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I wonder how long until MS takes over the Mono project, which runs Dot Net apps on Linux, especially since they are heavily pushing Silverlight as an alternative to Flash.


10 posted on 06/07/2007 11:16:03 AM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
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To: Clock King

Cooperate or the penguin gets it...


11 posted on 06/07/2007 11:26:53 AM PDT by Noumenon (The Koran is the Mein Kampf of a religion that has always aimed to eliminate the others - O. Fallaci)
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To: bigdcaldavis
Meanwhile, the folks behind open-source software are growing more upset as they see companies aligning themselves with Microsoft to give their customers a free pass against that possibility.

Thereby giving validity to Microshaft's claim without the bother and expense of litigating the issue.

Another making a deal with the dragon in the fond hope to be eaten last...

Fortunately, in spite of all of Europe's other negatives, this ploy is not likely to fly there...

What's so hard to understand about "open source"?

12 posted on 06/07/2007 11:31:35 AM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: js1138

IIRC, the Xandros interface is pretty close to WinXP. I ran Xandros enterprise version for a while and Corel (which Xandros bought)


13 posted on 06/07/2007 11:34:22 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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It might have the look and feel of XP, but I doubt if it will run every Windows program. I’m thinking Windows will eventually install on Linux the way it does with Macs.

The core OS will be Linux/Unix, and Windows will run as a GUI interface. This may seem stupid, but there are a lot of applications, including mos games, that only run on Windows.

I am hoping that in five years or so you will be able to hot switch between OSX, Windows and Linux interfaces, and run all their programs. If the OS is secure, Windows exploits would be disabled.


14 posted on 06/07/2007 12:16:36 PM PDT by js1138 (The absolute seriousness of someone who is terminally deluded.)
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I like the idea - basically like switching between gnome and kde. I’ve used WINE/Crossover for many win-apps on linux, but there are some limitations with functionality and performance.


15 posted on 06/07/2007 12:22:30 PM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: js1138
If the OS is secure, Windows exploits would be disabled.

Leaving only the Linux and OSX exploits?

How about virtualized Windows, OSX, OS/2, VMS, MVS, AS400, HPUX, System V, Solaris and Linux. All running under NetBSD.

16 posted on 06/07/2007 12:25:27 PM PDT by Dinsdale
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Within five years, entry level PCs will have eight cores or more, so why not? With multi-core chips, you could have an IBM mainframe chip, a 400 chip, a VAX chip, all native instruction sets, no emulation.


17 posted on 06/07/2007 12:31:09 PM PDT by js1138 (The absolute seriousness of someone who is terminally deluded.)
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Every one of those systems is a 'highly evolved' piece of software/hardware (read: It's amazing to the current group of developers that it works at all. There are parts of the source that they just don't touch as they know they will break stuff that will give them headaches. And that's just the hardware/firmware. The OS's are much MUCH worse, all of them.)

Getting all that to work together will be damn near impossible for any group. Imagining the NetBSD team doing it was a bad attempt at a geek joke that I should have made on /. not here.

Besides for most desktop applications CPU cycles are already INXS. What I want now is a decent laptop with a reasonable screen and 12 hours or more of battery life. You can keep the extra cores, two will be fine for me for the foreseeable future (and I've been running 2 sense the Pentium Pro).

Virtualization is the way to go. Even if you had the resources to build, for example, dedicated Power cores for the AS400 you'd still be better off just virutalizing the thing. Getting the actual hardware of all those platforms to share a bus would be impossible (and I don't use the word lightly).

18 posted on 06/07/2007 1:29:45 PM PDT by Dinsdale
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To: Clock King
Yeah this "Linux XP" doesn't look anything like Windows. /SARCASM


19 posted on 06/07/2007 7:43:20 PM PDT by Golden Eagle
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20 posted on 06/08/2007 6:09:20 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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