Reid move places bill in jeopardy

The Hill ^ | June 06, 2007 | Elana Schor

[Baladas]

Well, doh, Senator Kyl, Harry Reid invariably acts "in bath faith" - that's why you shouldn't support his bills.

[okie01]

Harry Reid invariably acts "in bath faith" -

Well, while he's playing dirty, he is, at least, clean...

Articulate, too.

[Petronski]

Very interesting. If this results in the death of the immigration bill, will Reid’s action have been a blunder or a strategy?

[Dahoser]

Very interesting. If this results in the death of the immigration bill, will Reid’s action have been a blunder or a strategy?

A strategy. He'll get credit for pulling a bad bill leaving the Republicans holding the bag as its supporters. It will serve them right for trying to screw the country.

[Baladas]

Heh, “bad”, not “bath”. On second thought, maybe both.

[stephenjohnbanker]

It’s a hoser bill : )

[no dems]

SOMEBODY HELP ME OUT HERE: Are there any Democrats opposing this bill in the Senate?

[DaBadGuy]

To hell with who gets the credit. Kill it now!

[acoulterfan]

Byrd

[Inverse]

I think that Reid knows that time is against the bill. The longer this goes on the more we (the conservative base) will be able to exert our will over the republicans in the senate.

[lone star annie]

Ben Nelson, Bryon Dorgan, and Sheets Byrd are opposing it.

[freedomdefender]

: Are there any Democrats opposing this bill in the Senate?

I think I read that Ben Nelson of NE is, as well as Webb of VA. But I could be wrong.

[Dahoser]

Total agreement in killing the bill.

The point is that Reid is maneuvering the Republicans into being the bad guys in this while the RATS will be viewed as the good guys. Again, the Republicans and the White House deserve it.

[Pelham]

Webb for one.

[SirJohnBarleycorn]

Man, the spin on this disastrous bill by those who want to push it through is fast and furious.

Sen. Edward Kennedy’s (D-Mass.) next move is unclear, but Reid may not be moved even by the lead Democratic negotiator’s advice against cloture.

Yeah, right. What B.S. The Rats and the illegals-employing businesses know that the more the average American figures out what the real-world consequences will be of this legislation, they will be against it.

So they are trying to figure out whether to shove it through now, and maybe even get lucky and squeak the same bill through the House on a razor-thin vote, or wait a bit longer, perhaps hoping that the advertising campaign by the illegals-employing business lobby will convince the public to support the bill.

Kyl signaled that a plan from Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison (R-Texas), which would require current illegal immigrants to “touch back” to their home countries before earning probationary visas, might be part of that deal.

The "touch-back" under which the head of household of an illegal family would have to go home and then come back in order to get the amnesty would be a completely meaningless giveaway by the Rats. So what, if the illegal head of household has to go home for a few days and come back? What substantive difference does that make? With the amnesty, he can use his new Z-visa to come and go as he pleases, and won't even have to sneak across the border when he comes back.

[Baladas]

Sheets is one that comes to mind. I also think Nelson is against it. It’s dying, Reid is trying to force his hand.

[Balding_Eagle]

Again, the Republicans and the White House deserve it.

True, but WE are the ones who will suffer for it after the next election. WE don't deserve it.

[K-oneTexas]

Interesting indeed. This bill was bad from the get go. If no one realized it then surely the 130+ amendments or Sen. Sessions eloquent dissection of 20 points should have convinced them. That and Kennedy was in on it.

It's also interesting to note how Republican Amendments don't have a chance and all Democrat Amendments do. From bad to worse. Evidently when they were home most didn't talk to constituents, either that or Blue States love it as much as the Dems do.

I felt listening most of the day to the Senate debate it was going to be shoved down the Chambers throat. Then go to the House, where I think many modifications would be made. But if Frankenstein was a 'man of many parts' this bill is jerry-rigged of even more parts.

My only hope is that it dies in the House and never gets to Conference Committee.

[gridlock]

Reid understands that is he can ram-rod this bill through, he has destroyed the Republican Party on the short term as the base walks away in disgust, and on the long term as 50 Million newly minted citizens overwhelm the American electorate.

If the Republicans cannot prevent cloture, I will have to conclude that they are useless.

[Malesherbes]

With all the smoke and mirrors, I probably don’t understand what’s going on. But if Reid is about to kill this monstrosity, then good luck to him.