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BATTLE OF MIDWAY - 65 years ago today
June 4, 2007
Posted on 06/04/2007 2:29:23 AM PDT by Zakeet
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posted on
06/04/2007 2:29:26 AM PDT
by
Zakeet
To: All
In memory of the 307 brave American sailors who didn't get to come home.
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posted on
06/04/2007 2:31:06 AM PDT
by
Zakeet
(Be thankful we don't get all the government we pay for)
To: Zakeet
Losing four carriers was a blow that sent Imperial Navy reeling. That WAS the turning point.
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posted on
06/04/2007 2:42:57 AM PDT
by
Thrownatbirth
(.....when the sidewalks are safe for the little guy.)
To: Zakeet
After a terrible and costly start... the patience and determination of exceptional individuals paid off... putting four Jap carriers to the bottom along with some of their best airmen.The tide had truly turned.
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posted on
06/04/2007 2:44:59 AM PDT
by
johnny7
("But that one on the far left... he had crazy eyes")
To: Zakeet
The demorats and their media toadies would have sold this to us a great failure today.
To: Chi-townChief
Murtha would be bemoaning the loss of 307 men in one week for “a handful of Jap rust-buckets”.
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posted on
06/04/2007 3:17:48 AM PDT
by
Thrownatbirth
(.....when the sidewalks are safe for the little guy.)
To: Chi-townChief
You’re right about that. “Was the carrier Yorktown lost due to incompetence or overreaching?” would have been the lead editorial of the New York Slimes.
“Four Japanese Carriers Sunk - Overkill or Racism in Action” screams the Washington Post.
Thank G-d for our brave military - they made it possible for me to be able to write this!
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posted on
06/04/2007 3:22:54 AM PDT
by
elcid1970
To: Zakeet
Bravery made this one possible, but the most major factor involved was a victory in the realm of information and code breaking. Americans had the edge in information, the Japanese had every other kind of edge in this battle; the info edge trumped all the rest of it.
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posted on
06/04/2007 3:38:26 AM PDT
by
rickdylan
To: Chi-townChief
The demorats and their media toadies would have sold this to us a great failure today.Yep, the headline, if written by today's standards would state:
U.S. loses carrier and a destroyer in battle. Democrats demand Congressional investigation.
To: Zakeet
Thanks for the Day in History reminder...love these post!
God Bless the USN and Aviators....and God Bless the USA
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posted on
06/04/2007 4:22:21 AM PDT
by
iopscusa
(El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
To: elcid1970
Youre right about that. Was the carrier Yorktown lost due to incompetence or overreaching? would have been the lead editorial of the New York Slimes.Frank Jack Fletcher would have backed them up with a quote.
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posted on
06/04/2007 4:31:33 AM PDT
by
johnny7
("But that one on the far left... he had crazy eyes")
To: Loyal Buckeye
"Democrats demand Congressional investigation"The Democrats in Congress would never have sent the U.S. fleet to Midway to begin with. They would have said it was too provocative.
To: iopscusa
Let’s all take a moment to remember CDR Waldron and the valiant men of Torpedo 8...
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posted on
06/04/2007 4:37:39 AM PDT
by
IGOTMINE
(1911s FOREVER!)
To: Zakeet
If Midway had been reported by today's media.
Midway Island Demolished. Yorktown, destroyer sunk.
Many US planes lost
June 7, 1942
The United States Navy suffered another blow in its attempt to stem the Japanese juggernaut ravaging the Pacific Ocean. Midway Island, perhaps the most vital U.S. outpost, was pummeled by Japanese Naval aviators. The defending U.S. forces, consisting primarily of antique Buffalo fighters, were competely wiped out while the Japanese attackers suffered few, if any, losses.
In a nearby naval confrontation, the Japanese successfully attacked the Yorktown which was later sunk by a Japanese submarine. A destroyer lashed to the Yorktown was also sunk.
American forces claim to have sunk four Japanese carriers and the cruiser Mogami but those claims were vehemently denied by the Emporer's spokeman.
The American carriers lost an entire squadron of torpedo planes when they failed to link up with fighter escorts. The dive bombers had fighter escort even though they weren't engaged by enemy fighters. The War Dept. refused to answer when asked why the fighters were assigned to the wrong attack groups. The Hornet lost a large number of planes when they couldn't locate the enemy task force. Despite this cavalcade of errors, Admirals Fletcher and Spruance have not been removed.
Code Broken
The failure at Midway is even more disheartening because the U.S. Navy knew the Japanese were coming. Secret documents provided to the NY Times showed that "Magic" intercepts showed the Japanese planned to attack Midway, which they called "AF".
Obsolete Equipment
Some critics blamed the failure at Midway on the use of obsolete aircraft. The inappropriately named Devastator torpedo planes proved no match for the Japanese fighters. Even the Avengers, its schedule replacements, were riddled with bullets and rendered unflyable. Secretary of War Stimson dodged the question saying simply: "You go to war with the Navy you have, not the Navy you want or would like to have". Critics immediately called for his resignation.
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posted on
06/04/2007 4:44:01 AM PDT
by
Dilbert56
(Harry Reid, D-Nev.: "We're going to pick up Senate seats as a result of this war.")
To: Dilbert56
BTW, I posted that a couple of years ago and got the name of cruiser we sank wrong. It was the Mikuma, not its sister ship Mogami. Mogami had some serious damage though.
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posted on
06/04/2007 4:47:46 AM PDT
by
Dilbert56
(Harry Reid, D-Nev.: "We're going to pick up Senate seats as a result of this war.")
To: IGOTMINE
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posted on
06/04/2007 4:47:58 AM PDT
by
johnny7
("But that one on the far left... he had crazy eyes")
To: Zakeet
It was a tremendous victory for America. I always loved the movie. It seemed to be historically accurate. Sinking four Japanese carriers was almost a miraculous accomplishment.
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posted on
06/04/2007 4:51:09 AM PDT
by
MBB1984
To: Dilbert56
Follow-up Story:
Imperial Navy Pilots Doomed by Sinkings
US Guilty of War Crimes?
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posted on
06/04/2007 4:52:29 AM PDT
by
johnny7
("But that one on the far left... he had crazy eyes")
To: Chi-townChief
The demorats and their media toadies would have sold this to us a great failure today. Or, more likely, the NY Slimes or the Washington Compost would have leaked the battle plan....
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posted on
06/04/2007 5:00:34 AM PDT
by
Thermalseeker
(Just the facts ma'am)
To: Zakeet
The “Sleeping Giant” knocked their socks off.As they japs were withdrawing from midway they knew it was over.The rest of the war was mopping up and included the most brutal fighting of the war.We were justified in nuking them in ‘45.The Greatest Generation.
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posted on
06/04/2007 5:02:12 AM PDT
by
HANG THE EXPENSE
(Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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