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As is, immigration bill a recipe for failure [SEN CORNYN]
Special to the Star-Telegram ^ | Jun. 03, 2007 | SEN. JOHN CORNYN

Posted on 06/03/2007 1:13:12 PM PDT by Dubya

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To: Dubya

I am glad Cornyn is solidly on the “NO” side. Here is Senator Jim DeMint with a solid and impressive response
on how terrible the immigration bill is:

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=YWQxMmUwNmM1ZWFhNzBkZGM4MGMzOTBlMWI1YjY2MTY=


41 posted on 06/03/2007 7:41:29 PM PDT by WOSG (Stop Illegal Immigration. Call your Senator today. Senate Switchboard at 202-224-3121.))
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To: editor-surveyor

Any attempts at vigilantism will be swiftly and mercilessly dealt with by the federal government.


42 posted on 06/03/2007 7:59:53 PM PDT by B. Chezwick (It is every true Christian's duty to defend Israel with their very life.)
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To: B. Chezwick; glock rocks; B4Ranch
"Any attempts at vigilantism will be swiftly and mercilessly dealt with by the federal government."

I haven't the slightest doubt. Just look at what these tyrants are doing to the border agents that are upholding the law.

But the people have awakened over the last two years; the last election is a good example. The masses figured out that the RINOs couldn't be beaten in a primary, so they beat them where they could: the general election.

The people will not take this insult. Enough are aware that this bill is the total undoing of their way of life, and their children's hope for the future that no federal thug squads will be able to supress their righteous rebellion.

The invaders will be found lying in ditches, back alleys, and wherever, until they leave of their own accord. I've heard this talk on major construction projects, spoken by mature union members that make $150,000 or more a year. Understand?

43 posted on 06/03/2007 8:14:16 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Turning the general election into a second Democrat primary is not a winning strategy.)
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To: B. Chezwick

The bill is a disaster that will MAKE THE IMMIGRATION PROBLEM WORSE. It will repeat the errors of the 1986 bill but a mroe massive scale, 20 million instead of 2 million.

The result will be large increases in social welfare costs, burdens on all areas of government from prisons to schools to hospitals, and a ready contingent of democrat leaning voters to make sure that the taxpayers will be soaked heavily to pay for it all.

meanwhile, the illegal immigration problem will only get worse, since Ted Kennedy wrote the bill and he wrote it be a dream for immigrant lawyers and a nightmare for Americans who want the rule of law.

http://travismonitor.blogspot.com/2007/05/this-immigration-bill-is-built-to-fail.html

Having Senator Ted Kennedy author this bill is like asking an incompetent doctor who botched an operation to conduct the surgery to fix his own mistakes. In 1986, Senator Kennedy said “We will never again bring forward another Amnesty Bill like this.” Today, he brings forward the 1986-redo bill, only bigger. Kennedy has joined with La Raza and cheap labor lobbies on the business side to ensure that American immigration stays as out-of-control as possible, and the result is predictably bad.”


44 posted on 06/03/2007 9:36:38 PM PDT by WOSG (Stop Illegal Immigration. Call your Senator today. Senate Switchboard at 202-224-3121.))
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To: editor-surveyor

Well .. revolution would mean martial law .. and that would play right into the dems hands.


45 posted on 06/03/2007 10:13:03 PM PDT by CyberAnt (What is it about "ILLEGAL" that people don't understand ..??)
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To: Dubya
We now have a situation in which some laws are routinely ignored.

We now have a situation in which some laws are routinely ignored REWARDED WITH AMNESTY.

There, fixed that sentence for you. I agree with Senator Cornyn on this analysis of the amnesty bill.

46 posted on 06/04/2007 5:57:45 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Guns don't kill people. None of my guns ever left the house at night and killed anyone.)
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To: Gritty

“Standards of living for all except the very richest will fall. Massive resentment will bloom quickly into violence and retribution will pile upon retribution from both sides until the violence is uncontainable and widespread.”

The problem with this is that the folk suffering the violence will not be the folk who did this to us. The trash in Congress will still live like demi-Gods protected from the consequences of their acts.

It is just like eminent domain abuse. Until those making the decisions feel the pain, they will continue to Sc*** us over.


47 posted on 06/04/2007 8:26:50 AM PDT by Jim Verdolini
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To: CyberAnt

“Well .. revolution would mean martial law .. and that would play right into the dems hands.”

I am not so sure. If Congress thought there was a real, is minor chance that THEY would get hurt from their acts, the acts would stop. Politicians do not act out of civic duty or as their constitutents desire, they act out of self interest and self preservation.


48 posted on 06/04/2007 8:31:25 AM PDT by Jim Verdolini
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To: CyberAnt
"Well .. revolution would mean martial law .. and that would play right into the dems hands."

No argument. I said essentially the same thing a few posts back.

49 posted on 06/04/2007 9:26:15 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Turning the general election into a second Democrat primary is not a winning strategy.)
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To: NRA2BFree
Just wait until they discover there are really 25 - 30 million illegals here. It's going to be an impossible task to process that many. Those employees will quit their jobs from all the stress!

Nope. Here's what will happen: the employees will be expected to process 'X' applicants per day. The computerized records will come across their screen and they'll just mash the "accept" button X times before 10:00am and spend the rest of the day on personal issues. And why wouldn't they? The task is impossible and nobody is held responsible for when some government employee screws up. So why wouldn't they just say "yes" to each and every application they get?

50 posted on 06/04/2007 11:11:26 AM PDT by whd23
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
Cornyn has a very well defined trail of position(s) on immigration reform.

In 2004 he authored an comprehensove immigration reform bill.
In 2005 he participated in the immigration reform "test vote".
In 2005 he co-authored(Kyl) a comprehensive reform bill.
In 2006 he voted on S 2611.
In 2007 he participated extensively in the compromise process of the present bill, dropping out towards the end.

Based on his position in each of these events, we can say with great certainty that he supports "amnesty".

Of course, "amnesty" depends on what the word "amnesty" means.

And then there is the question of whether Cornyn's position is because he is his own man or because he is Bush's man. Or, if Kennedy can convince Menendez to support the compromise, Bush will convince Cornyn to support the compromise.

51 posted on 06/04/2007 1:25:20 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: umgud
I wrote this over three years ago.

Not many realized the impact “immigration reform” according to Bush would have.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1062930/posts

According to what’s been proposed so far of the President’s plan for Illegaliens, America will offer them a chance to “register” and “stay for three years” (as if they would); they now can bring as many as five family members into this country.

With currently an estimated 8-12 million Illegaliens in America, that’s a potentially new total of 48-72 million. The originally registered Illegalien can’t support those five new, so six are now on the public dole - since the first realized early on that not reporting all his income means plenty of “public assistance”.

Three of the six become pregnant and have two “anchor babies” each before the second year ends, effectively ending most chances of deportation when the third year passes without anyone re-registering. None of the potential 144 million are “registered” now and none can be deported.”

We’re losing the America we once enjoyed.

52 posted on 06/04/2007 1:37:21 PM PDT by azhenfud (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Ben Ficklin

That’s right. Although it is a better bill, it is another Compromise that rewrites what we have rather than enforcing what we have and strengthening what we have. It still doesn’t enforce border security first. The immigration reform.


53 posted on 06/04/2007 1:42:41 PM PDT by K-oneTexas (I'm not a judge and there ain't enough of me to be a jury. (Zell Miller, A National Party No More))
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To: no dems

I think he would be a great Supreme Court Justice.


54 posted on 06/04/2007 1:43:20 PM PDT by bestrongbpositive
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To: Ben Ficklin

Cornyn’s up for re-election, he won’t support amnesty.


55 posted on 06/04/2007 4:03:03 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
Re-election? Who will oppose him in the primary? No one.
Do you think the trial lawyer dem can beat JC in the general?

Senator Kay has to be careful, she will be running for gov and will have a tight primary.

56 posted on 06/04/2007 5:00:02 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin
Do you think the trial lawyer dem can beat JC in the general?

Who knows, I'm not from Texas. His office consistently says he's not supporting the bill and I'll take their word for it. You seem to think he will in the end so we'll have to wait and see.

57 posted on 06/04/2007 5:51:05 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
How Cornyn votes on this particular bill is really not important.

The underlying basis for reaching a compromise is that there is a adequate number of Senators who will support some version of amnesty. If this number is large enough/adequate, then it is just a matter of finding the seam.

If there are 40 dems supporting amnesty onto the path, 13 pubs supporting amnesty onto the path, and 22 pubs supporting amnesty to guest worker, then it is most likely that they can find a point or compromise to get 60 plus for cloture.

58 posted on 06/04/2007 6:35:04 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: editor-surveyor

LOL! Great minds ... LOL!!


59 posted on 06/04/2007 8:55:06 PM PDT by CyberAnt (What is it about "ILLEGAL" that people don't understand ..??)
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