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Authorities shift focus to ‘super corridor’
In-Forum News ^ | May 30, 2007 | Jonathan Knutson and Melinda Rogers

Posted on 05/30/2007 6:22:13 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

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To: SittinYonder
How do roads take away our sovereignty?
21 posted on 05/30/2007 7:58:19 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists (and goldbugs) so bad at math?)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Thanks for the ping!


22 posted on 05/30/2007 8:07:25 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl

You’re welcome. :-)


23 posted on 05/30/2007 8:15:10 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Will I be suspended again for this remark?)
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To: Toddsterpatriot; eyespysomething

The link takes you to a pdf (just a warning, sometimes pdf links freeze my computer).

http://www.cfr.org/content/publications/attachments/NorthAmerica_TF_final.pdf

The CFR’s North American Community, in my opinion, sounds like the loss of national sovereignty to me. This is the sort of thing that leads to us all being “citizens of the world.” These steps are incremental. This super corridor is one step, the Senate’s immigration deal is another step.

I suspect, based on your other posts, that you’ll offer me Saran Wrap for my tinfoil hat and accuse me of being a conspiracy theorist, but when I read things like the following, it makes me very nervous. Read through this report, and you will find multiple examples of this kind of “no borders” language:

“Lay the groundwork for the freer flow of people within North America. The three governments should commit themselves to the long-term goal of dramatically diminishing the need for the current intensity of the governments’ physical control of cross-border traffic, travel, and trade within North America. A long-term goal for a North American border action plan should be joint screening of travelers from third countries at their first point of entry into North America and the elimination of most controls over the temporary movement of these travelers within North America.”

It smells like an effort to erase our northern and southern borders, and I believe it is a terrible and tragic mistake.

I’m all for pro-growth measures, and I have no problem with expanding opportunities for trade with other nations. But those opportunities should not also mean a loss of our borders.


24 posted on 05/30/2007 8:15:30 AM PDT by SittinYonder (Ic þæt gehate, þæt ic heonon nelle fleon fotes trym, ac wille furðor gan)
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To: snowrip
The goal, however, is to integrate countries,

Exactly, see the CFR report linked to in post #24 of this thread.

We are all citizens of North America, now. The United States is merely a geographic and historic reference point.

25 posted on 05/30/2007 8:17:30 AM PDT by SittinYonder (Ic þæt gehate, þæt ic heonon nelle fleon fotes trym, ac wille furðor gan)
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To: PAR35

As I recall, the Interstate Highway System was considered complete in 1996.


26 posted on 05/30/2007 8:21:32 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Will I be suspended again for this remark?)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Lets make it an American Autobahn.
You drive on it at your own risk, you can go as fast as you want, if you cause an accident you, or the company you work for, not your insurance company, pays for all medical - life - property damage that occurs.

Think very many people would use it?

27 posted on 05/30/2007 8:22:17 AM PDT by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: SittinYonder
The CFR’s North American Community, in my opinion, sounds like the loss of national sovereignty to me.

CFR? I thought we were talking about a road?

This super corridor is one step,

So the road really doesn't take our sovereignty?

I’m all for pro-growth measures, and I have no problem with expanding opportunities for trade with other nations. But those opportunities should not also mean a loss of our borders.

I agree, more trade, fewer illegals.

28 posted on 05/30/2007 8:24:51 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists (and goldbugs) so bad at math?)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
As I recall, the Interstate Highway System was considered complete in 1996.

Sounds good enough for me. I knew the 1970 date was garbage. They ought to fire any reporter who isn't smart enough to Google.

I remember the last stretch of I-75 in Georgia was paved while Carter was president. They set up a big ceremony with him. Unfortunately, the weather conditions weren't right for the paving, and a few weeks after the staged news event they were tearing the paving out so they could re-do that stretch.

29 posted on 05/30/2007 8:30:33 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: Toddsterpatriot
CFR? I thought we were talking about a road?

We're taling about a road that offers travel from the southern tip of Mexico, through the United States and into Canada. The road is a big part of the CFR's plan for a North American Community.

So the road really doesn't take our sovereignty?

It's a piece of the puzzle, IMO.

I agree, more trade, fewer illegals.

When we erase the border, there will be no illegals, so I guess you'll get what you want.

30 posted on 05/30/2007 8:37:06 AM PDT by SittinYonder (Ic þæt gehate, þæt ic heonon nelle fleon fotes trym, ac wille furðor gan)
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To: SittinYonder
We're taling about a road that offers travel from the southern tip of Mexico, through the United States and into Canada. The road is a big part of the CFR's plan for a North American Community.

Currently there are no roads that go from Mexico into the US? No roads that go from Canada into the US?

When we erase the border, there will be no illegals, so I guess you'll get what you want.

Sorry to disappoint you, I don't want illegals or an erased border.

31 posted on 05/30/2007 8:40:00 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists (and goldbugs) so bad at math?)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
The EU started with a trade agreement. You then have to have a court over see the agreement about your own countries court system. Then you have a new system of people spending time increasing their power and ability to collect taxes. Soon you are a Federalized system. It is happening in Europe today. It has now come to you.
32 posted on 05/30/2007 8:44:23 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Satan is working both sides of the street in World Socialism and World Courts.)
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To: rawhide

Railways are part of the super corridor plans, too.

Where I live we are part of CANAMEX, a high priority corridor kind of a variation of Texas Corridor.

Union Pacific has been here trying to get options on land to build rail from Mexico. Supposed, they are now going to look in California.....

Down in Baja, Mexico.... a new port to rival Long Beach is to be built where millions and millions of containers of Chinese goods are to be loaded on the trains and trucks to ship north to the US and Canada.

I bet every state has corridors planned to be part of “this global” madness.

We are to have power come up from Mexico, right across the border. Natural gas is to come in from off Baja. New highway roads...not openly referred to as CANAMEX. One speaker did say we are “the western leg of CANAMEX.”

So much for all the transparency,the new government buzz word!


33 posted on 05/30/2007 8:45:32 AM PDT by kactus
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To: bmwcyle
The EU started with a trade agreement.

Yeah, we're just like Europe. LOL!

34 posted on 05/30/2007 8:48:50 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists (and goldbugs) so bad at math?)
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To: kactus
We are to have power come up from Mexico, right across the border. Natural gas is to come in from off Baja.

Stop the electricity! Stop the gas! Do it for the children.

35 posted on 05/30/2007 8:50:20 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists (and goldbugs) so bad at math?)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

The first steps are in the works. Laugh all you want. You are being sold out by Congress and your President. It will be real funny. /sarcasm


36 posted on 05/30/2007 8:50:54 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Satan is working both sides of the street in World Socialism and World Courts.)
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To: bmwcyle
The first steps are in the works.

If you say so.

37 posted on 05/30/2007 8:51:36 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists (and goldbugs) so bad at math?)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Patronize all you want. Fools do that so well.


38 posted on 05/30/2007 8:53:39 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Satan is working both sides of the street in World Socialism and World Courts.)
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To: bmwcyle

Whine all you want. Fools do that so well.


40 posted on 05/30/2007 8:54:23 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists (and goldbugs) so bad at math?)
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