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Dad jumps man photographing girl
THE ORANGE COUNTY REGISTER ^ | Tuesday, May 29, 2007 | JOHN GITTELSOHN

Posted on 05/29/2007 7:51:31 PM PDT by TaxPayer2000

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To: Williams
These photos were being taken up the little girl's skirt.

Let's not get ahead of the facts here. Even if this is what one witness genuinely perceived to be the case that witness may simply be mistaken.

41 posted on 05/29/2007 9:16:57 PM PDT by rogue yam
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To: weegee

Nah. To get charged with assaulting an officer, he’d have to have known that the perv was an officer. And based on the article the perv acted guilty by allowing himself to be arrested by a citizen. You may not like how officers often protect each other and bend over backwards to give fellow officers the benefit of the doubt(what profession doesn’t) but I am pretty sure that the NJ police involved saw the LA cop as the perv that he was and would have busted him if they could. Hell I am pretty sure if the perv was a NJ cop they would have busted him. We aren’t talking breaking the rules here. We are talking child porn.


42 posted on 05/29/2007 9:30:06 PM PDT by Witchman63 ("Don't immanentize the eschaton!")
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To: TaxPayer2000
8th paragraph eventually reveals the pervert was a cop. No mention in the headline (I guess “cop” takes up too much space compared to “man.”)
43 posted on 05/29/2007 9:30:16 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Your FRiendly FReeper Patent Attorney (...and another "Constitution-bot"))
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To: Dr.Zoidberg; weegee
Dr., I think I would sense hostility in you and back off. If you tried to physically stop me or take my camera away, you would probably be in more trouble than I would, but I can assure you I would have gotten the message loud and clear before that. I try my best to steer clear of those situations with children especially and adults as well, hasn't resulted in a confrontation yet with kids, have been threatened 3 times otherwise. Photographing sailboats from a public bikepath by the water company and get accosted by a security guard. Kind of spoiled my fun and as I was walking to my car, I tried to get some flags flying over the boat club through a chain link fence. The manager was leaving in his car, rolled down the window, and said you can go inside the gate and photograph anything you want. Some people have been extraordinarily kind to me like that. Was photographing some steam billowing out of a Nestle's plant on a freezing cold day with an old, red locomotive backing up the tracks in the foreground, and a semi driver pulls up and tells me I can't take pictures there.

weegee, I was following that case but didn't know the outcome. That's kind of surprising, and I kind of felt bad for the old gent, and the photog did make a profit from the photo. So the same rules don't apply always and everywhere. I don't know how many lawyers I called trying to get a written legal opinion to protect myself, finally got a lead on one, and he never returned my call. I took a nice night photo of a public building at Christmas and wondered if I could sell it. I called the city, and they told me it would depend on what was in it! (a nice building all lit up with Christmas lights!, no people at all) and I'd have to bring it down for approval. When I got down there, the guy took the photo to the supervisor, and came back and said no problem with it.

He he, the oddest things happen. Two young boys decided to turn my back yard by the alley into a bike ramp. They were riding up in my yard, tearing around, I'm always afraid a kid will get hurt in our litigous climate. They weren't really hurting my grass or anything. What to do? Yell at them? No, there has to be a better way. I got my camera out and went out and started taking pictures, seeing if I could catch one airborne and finally did. They were little daredevils. I let them have their fun for awhile longer, then said 2 more minutes. They were cool about it and then went on their way.

I've won some money with my photos, but don't go out of my way trying to sell them because it's just a hobby and I like to keep it that way. Some rich people wanted to pay me to photograph their flowers, and I was too scared to do it for pay, afraid I would screw up. Bush had his photo taken in their mfg plant. I guess they are nice, but I am kind of intimidated by rich people.

44 posted on 05/29/2007 9:35:33 PM PDT by Aliska
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To: thefactor

What one would expect of Dornan’s kid.


45 posted on 05/29/2007 9:38:06 PM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: Aliska
I am kind of intimidated by rich people.

Don't be. Remember "Your 'superiors', aren't!"

46 posted on 05/29/2007 9:38:52 PM PDT by Dinsdale
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To: M203M4
I really doubt the “good ole boy” network kicks in for fellow officers that are pedophiles. No one’s gonna bleed blue for sickos like that. Cops are gonna think about their own kids before they start doing favors for a freak like that.
47 posted on 05/29/2007 9:46:11 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: TaxPayer2000
the man was an off-duty Los Angeles police officer.

then he won't get treated like the rest of us

48 posted on 05/29/2007 9:49:31 PM PDT by wardaddy (on parole)
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To: Dinsdale
"Your 'superiors', aren't!"

I'm sorry, but I guess I'm dense and don't get it. I don't know why I am that way. I think it goes back to my high school days when I wasn't good enough for a certain crowd. Or when I got rejected by all the sororities during rush week when I went to the university, never knew why, had good grades, maybe not pretty or classy enough, wasn't interested in football games, never figured it out. But there's more to it than that. I wish I could overcome it. Actually, I'm rich, too (on paper), but nobody knows unless I tell them which I don't except now anonymously. You would never know from the way I live my life.

49 posted on 05/29/2007 9:51:32 PM PDT by Aliska
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To: Aliska
The only law I'm aware of that applies out in public places is that if the person can be recognized, the photo cannot be sold for profit without a model release.

Can it be used otherwise in commerce? In other words, can you go outside, take a photo of someone on the street, and incorporate it into marketing materials, say, brochures or graphics for a web site?

50 posted on 05/29/2007 10:01:24 PM PDT by Luke Skyfreeper
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To: Luke Skyfreeper

I don’t know for sure actually. An amorphous crowd of people, perhaps, but individuals whose faces could be recognized, I think you’d need a model release in most states (state law governs). My son has a photo of a retired couple on his website for his business. I think it is a stock photo; i.e., a pro took it and got the release and then sold it. I’ll ask him.


51 posted on 05/29/2007 10:56:00 PM PDT by Aliska
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To: silverleaf

Have they found her? Did they find the man they were looking for? I haven’t heard anything for a couple weeks.


52 posted on 05/29/2007 11:02:15 PM PDT by kalee (The offenses we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we write in marble. JHuett)
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To: gidget7

It’s not the govt’s job - it’s the parents job .. and I’m happy to see one parent taking that responsibility seriously.


53 posted on 05/30/2007 12:20:21 AM PDT by CyberAnt ("... first time in history the U.S. House has attempted to surrender via C-SPAN TV ...")
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To: Dinsdale

99.999% of parents don’t even think that dressing their little daughter in a dress could be interpreted as an act of enticement, nor should they.


54 posted on 05/30/2007 3:53:43 AM PDT by RetSignman (DEMSM: "If you tell a big enough lie, frequently enough, it becomes the truth")
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To: TaxPayer2000
Check this out....

Off-Duty Cop Accused Of Taking Photos Of Kids

From the link...

"Right now, this whole thing is getting blown way out of proportion," Garden Grove police Sgt. Jim Fischer said. Police said the images themselves did not constitute a crime.

Everyone feel better now?

55 posted on 05/30/2007 3:57:44 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
"...the man was an off-duty Los Angeles police officer...

There's the key to this "investigation"

Nothing will happen and there will be no further questioning of anyone. Nothing to see here and once again another LEO is protected by his own

56 posted on 05/30/2007 3:58:05 AM PDT by Lloyd227 (and may God bless Oriana Fallaci)
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To: M203M4
the "good ol boy" network will come thru....sadly.......

this guy should have his home computer seized.....

57 posted on 05/30/2007 3:58:49 AM PDT by cherry
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To: Dinsdale
RE: A dress. Why not do one better and get her a nice burqa. We can’t have little temptresses out there enticing grown men (/sarcasm /barf)
58 posted on 05/30/2007 3:59:10 AM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: Aliska

Photographing is one thing, but going for up skirt shots is another! Plus, it sounds like the guy is using a run of the mill digital camera...doesn’t sound very legit to me either way!


59 posted on 05/30/2007 4:01:03 AM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: Aliska
I don't think one should be able to show anyone else whatever pics they take UNLESS they have written permission.....

I notice you have a granddtr.....how would you like some strange man coming up, getting pics of her up her dress?.....especially if he starts running away after taking the pics....

60 posted on 05/30/2007 4:02:20 AM PDT by cherry
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