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FL lawyer says Giuliani, Romney, McCain wrong on Schiavo case
OneNewsNow ^ | 5/28/07 | Jim Brown

Posted on 05/28/2007 9:33:12 AM PDT by wagglebee

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To: T'wit; bjs1779

When you were up against the OJ look-alike defense team, I expected some brilliant defense of a murder, but now it is looking more and more like second stringers, cut from that elite bunch early on. And now one of their small team has bit the dust.

Cheers!


1,661 posted on 07/15/2007 5:37:01 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: 8mmMauser
>> And now one of their small team has bit the dust.

So it seems. I wished that one well and it turned around and bit my ankle, like an angry chihuahua.

1,662 posted on 07/15/2007 6:11:56 AM PDT by T'wit (Visitors: you come here expecting a turkey shoot, and then you find out that you are the turkey.)
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To: 8mmMauser
>> the OJ look-alike defense team,

OJ's defense lawyers had exactly the same problem(s). 1) OJ did it. 2) Calculated odds that OJ did it were even more astronomical than the calculated odds that Michael did it.

OJ's lawyers solved it by putting someone else on trial (Mark Fuhrman). Here, Michael's lawyers are busy putting Carla Iyer on trial for finding the empty insulin bottle in the trash. Too bad for them -- this jury isn't buying it.

1,663 posted on 07/15/2007 6:30:13 AM PDT by T'wit (Visitors: you come here expecting a turkey shoot, and then you find out that you are the turkey.)
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To: T'wit
Personally, I find it incredible that any medical person would carry on this debate ad nauseam about a single word. Really, retMD. It is disingenuous to jump on T'wit without being completely candid about the term yourself.

Look at the dozen or so definitions you and kosokey have referenced that refer to person, place and time. In reality, what nurses are taught is to refer in chart notation on orientation as "oriented X 1, 2, or 3." You should have pointed out to people in this thread that this would be the normal thought and reference of any trained nurse, with the number referring to "self, place, and time." Surely you know that patients may be "oriented" in any combination of these parameters. In the interests of medical accuracy, you should have said so. You know perfectly well a nurse such as Iyer may very well refer to a patient as being "oriented" and mean a simple "oriented X 1." Certainly her observations would support that assessment. Keep in mind also, she was writing to be understood by a general reader, not writing in a chart or addressing a medical audience. There is no call to jump all over her for using one word -- a word easily understood by a lay audience and accurate for her first-hand experience.

1,664 posted on 07/15/2007 7:25:10 AM PDT by Tajitaw
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To: retMD; Tajitaw; kozokey; erton1

Ping to #1664, retMD, erton1 and kozokey, which I believe is meant more for you than for me.


1,665 posted on 07/15/2007 8:46:02 AM PDT by T'wit (Visitors: you come here expecting a turkey shoot, and then you find out that you are the turkey.)
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To: Tajitaw; retMD
Personally, I find it incredible that any medical person would carry on this debate ad nauseam about a single word. Really, retMD. It is disingenuous to jump on T'wit without being completely candid about the term yourself.

Stick around Tajitaw, the trolls will try every trick in the book. Good post btw.

1,666 posted on 07/15/2007 2:46:34 PM PDT by bjs1779
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To: erton1
Was your star non-witness lying or just grossly mistaken in her assessment of Terri’s condition?

Well, your star witness, the paid to lie Dr. Cranford hired by Geroge Felos, was grossly mistaken in the past. Notice that that doesn't end with a question mark.

1,667 posted on 07/15/2007 3:04:51 PM PDT by bjs1779
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To: erton1
The term “alert and orientated” is standard medical terminology used throughout the country. The definitions provided by retMD and kozokey are entirely correct and accepted by all in the medical profession.

According to this Post, you are wrong. It never occurred to me, but a search on google will validate the poster. Something you want to add?

1,668 posted on 07/15/2007 3:46:43 PM PDT by bjs1779
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To: 8mmMauser
And now one of their small team has bit the dust.

The poster, like Michael Schiavo, was probably stalking behind the scenes. I got a freepmail from it, but I just deleted it before I read it.

1,669 posted on 07/15/2007 4:09:08 PM PDT by bjs1779
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To: bjs1779; 8mmMauser; T'wit; BykrBayb; Sun

I see that another one of the deathbots has departed.


1,670 posted on 07/15/2007 4:12:20 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: bjs1779; 8mmMauser; T'wit; BykrBayb; Sun

Correction: Two more!


1,671 posted on 07/15/2007 4:13:18 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee
I see that another one of the deathbots has departed.

An according to the autopsy report, they can't talk anymore either.

1,672 posted on 07/15/2007 4:15:16 PM PDT by bjs1779
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To: bjs1779
An according to the autopsy report, they can't talk anymore either.

Well, by their own standards, their euthanization was long overdue.

1,673 posted on 07/15/2007 4:16:53 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee
Correction: Two more!

They really were hurting Michael's cause. Bless them for that.

1,674 posted on 07/15/2007 4:18:14 PM PDT by bjs1779
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To: bjs1779

They should go join up with the WAckos, most of them cheered Terri’s murder.


1,675 posted on 07/15/2007 4:21:14 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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They should go join up with the WAckos, most of them cheered Terri’s murder.

For their sake, I hope they will reconsider that strongly.

1,676 posted on 07/15/2007 4:26:45 PM PDT by bjs1779
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To: wagglebee
Why, Wags, I do believe you are correct. Two more have gone, plus the one earlier, making three in all who have gone, take away from three who were here, and that makes none.

And so calm returns to the peaceful kingdom. The people smile and give thinks to St. Fu, patron saint of hey, let's have a little peace and quiet around here.

1,677 posted on 07/15/2007 4:41:14 PM PDT by T'wit (Visitors: you come here expecting a turkey shoot, and then you find out that you are the turkey.)
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To: T'wit

Don’t worry, more will come to fill their places, they’re like a virus.


1,678 posted on 07/15/2007 4:44:44 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee
>> Don’t worry, more will come to fill their places, they’re like a virus.

They're like batting practice in slow-pitch league.

1,679 posted on 07/15/2007 4:53:13 PM PDT by T'wit (Visitors: you come here expecting a turkey shoot, and then you find out that you are the turkey.)
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To: wagglebee; bjs1779; 8mmMauser; Tajitaw; BykrBayb; Sun; retMD
I'm a little sorry that retMD couldn't stick around to unravel the mystery how Michael hurt Terri. That's the best part of mystery stories, where Hercule Poirot or Columbo explains the whole thing. Poor retMD will have to be content with the answer I gave him -- Michael squashed her.
1,680 posted on 07/15/2007 5:02:12 PM PDT by T'wit (Visitors: you come here expecting a turkey shoot, and then you find out that you are the turkey.)
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