Posted on 05/22/2007 9:29:44 AM PDT by SittinYonder
It was my understanding with the BNP that the “racist” label comes from their desire to stop immigration from Islamists.
I know the Front National’s Le Pen has made Holocaust denial statements, and I realize that anti-semitism is rampant in France. Perhaps Front National is anti-semitic (I don’t know, but I guess it wouldn’t surprise me), but I do know that one of their goals is to stop immigration from Islamists.
The vlaams Belang party I don’t know anything about.
Obviously, I’m learning that these three groups stir emotions. Frankly, I don’t know enough about them, and when I read the line about the Republican Party modeling itself after them, I didn’t take that to mean what others have. The author’s points were all centered around immigration, and that’s the context I read this in.
I doubt very much that Hunter, Tancredo or Paul know this guy or have read this and probably won’t renounce him.
Thats a stretch, but I do recall reading something about him not being all right, thats why I asked. I don't know if a kid who doesn't talk automatically disqualifies him from entry into the country though.
You’re like a scratched record, SittinYonder, stuck in the groove and unable to move on. Journalism and creative writing are two very distinct vocations, although both entail putting words to paper. While it’s probably true many journalists aspire to fiction, it’s also (equally, probably) true fiction writers rarely aspire to journalism.
Of all the things going on in the world, why post a loony-tunes, conspiratorial screed? Rather than defend your posting choice with any lucidity or coherence, you absolve yourself of any endorsement of its content and go on the attack when people like me call you on that choice, and—in my case—condemn you for it. You drove the nail even harder when you posted Ron Paul campaign ad transcripts, in toto, verbatim. Paul is a 9-11 Truther, a paranoid nutjob thinly disguised as a reputable, mainstream conservative. You even attempted to lump Paul in with genuinely mainstream (if marginal) candidates like Tancredo and Huckabee.
You claim not to be antisemitic. So does Pat Buchanan, yet in nearly all of his columns nowadays, somehow, somewhere the influence of the ‘Zionist Lobby’ comes up. There’s nothing blatant about Buchanan—he was, after all, Nixon’s Communications Director at one time, so knows his way around the semantic minefield of political discourse, but the bigotry is there for anyone with eyes to see. When weighing Buchanan’s prejudices, it’s evident largely in his choice of topics, the way he approaches the subject matter, the causes he champions, the issues he embraces as his own.
Same with you.
No apology.
I've got hundreds of posts on FreeRepublic. Find the "zionist lobby" posts of mine if you're going to continue to call me anti-semitic.
Of all the things going on in the world, why post a loony-tunes, conspiratorial screed?
Because there are points in here I think are worthy of discussion: Is the Republican Party now a globalist party as the writer contends? Do conservatives intend to leave the party if the Republicans continue with what seems to be a globalist agenda? Are Tancredo, Hunter and Paul the only conservatives in the race, as the writer contends?
Go back and look at my first post on this thread, these are the two issues I pulled out because these were my focus.
I'm not very familiar with the European parties this guy talks about, and while I know Le Pen in France is anti-semitic (I was under the impression most of the French are), that never entered into my consideration when I posted this article. Since the immigration deal was struck, a lot of people have been saying they're done with the Republican party. That hardly makes them anti-semites.
You drove the nail even harder when you posted Ron Paul campaign ad transcripts, in toto, verbatim.
I absolutely support Ron Paul on his domestic policies, and among conservatives, I'm not alone there. Prior to Paul coming out with his anti-war stance, Paul was a hero to many conservatives on this forum. For his firm stance on the federal government abiding by the Constitution, he remains one of the few decent politicians in my opinion. What is it exactly about the Constitution that you don't support?
You didn't come into this thread until post 120. By then, I'd already made clear my position on Paul. I disagree with him in his positions on the WOT. I'd said that before you ever started your nasty diatribe against me. But Paul's opinions on domestic issues are grounded in the Constitution and mainstream conservative principles. As you well know I posted those three pieces straight from his website to give you an opportunity to show how he's a kook and on the fringe. You haven't touched it, you know those principles are conservative, you know they're not "fringe" positions so you just ignore it.
Though I do suspect they are positions you can't support. I think you're a globalist, and I think you find no fault in the current size and scope of the federal government.
You attacked me personally, over and over again, without the least bit of evidence to support your absurd claims. I have a long posting history that's easily accessible. If I am what you say I am, then use my words to prove it.
Otherwise, apologize.
A does not lead to B here, and is representative of the tack you’ve taken throughout. Any attempt to follow the logic of that statement takes one to an immediate dead end.
Ron Paul is a 9-11 Truther. A ‘decent politician’ is not one who believes the attacks on our country by Islamic extremists were part of a vast US governmental conspiracy. By doing so, he immediately discredits himself and all those who support him, in whole or in part. The BNP in Britain is a bastion of neo-facists. The author of the article you posted wouldn’t know a conservative from a carrot. Endorse the author’s views and you make yourself suspect as a fellow-traveler, in the very least.
I won’t go tit-for-tat with a conspiracy theorist. It’s like arguing with a neo-confederate about ‘The War of Northern Aggression’. What I will do, as I have done, is call you and others like you out and force you to defend your position with something approaching rational discourse. Admittedly, it is difficult to remain emotionally detached when dealing with someone holding paranoid, deranged, and/or repugnant ideas, but I don’t apologize for that, either. One should get angry when dealing with defenders of 9-11 conspiracy theories, for example. One should make such people objects of unbridled ridicule and sarcasm. Such people should know the derisive laughter they hear when leaving a room is at them, not with them.
It’s been fun.
Have a good weekend...
That's the trouble. You're lying about me. You're pretending I have adopted positions that I have not adopted, and I won't defend those positions because they are not mine. I've said that, repeatedly. I've said it on this thread. I said it before you ever posted those lies about me and insulted me.
I absolutely will - and have - defended Paul's domestic policy and criticized him where he deserves criticism. I've also said repeatedly I don't endorse the opinion of this author.
I wont go tit-for-tat with a conspiracy theorist.
Demostrate from my posts where I'm a conspiracy theorist. Demonstrate from my posts where I'm an anti-semite. You won't because you can't.
You are simply wrong in the things you've said about me. You can't prove that you're right because there is absolutely no evidence to support the accusations you've made. But instead of doing the decent and honorable thing, you repeat the accusations.
If the things you say about me were true, so be it. But your insults are based on lies created by you.
You owe me an apology. Prove your accusations against me instead of simply repeating them or apologize.
I don't disagree with you in your opinion about the 9/11 truthers or anti-semites. I do think you're a dispicable person because of your over-inflated ego and inability to admit you've made a mistake.
Why, if I am an anti-semite or a 9/11 Truther, wouldn't I attempt to defend those positions? Why would I beg you to search through my posting history to prove it?
I assure you, any position I take I am more than happy and more than willing to defend.
You're just a nasty liar who's only looking for a pissing contest.
Apologize.
Perhaps there is more to this story then. I wonder if this only came out after the massacres, or if it was well known before they came over here.
Note that none of these parties are in power. Nor do any of them have a prayer of ever gaining power.
They are doomed to be permanent "protest parties".
And they insure the continuation of the socialist ruling parties.
Basil Harrington is a fool.
Doubtless, he would've voted for Ross Perot. So did I. But I learned my lesson...
I think the GOP faces the same fate, but I think that's because that's what they want. It's almost like they lust to be the minority.
Doubtless, he would've voted for Ross Perot. So did I. But I learned my lesson...
LOL!
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