LOST At Sea

IBD Editorials ^ | 18 May 2007 | Staff

[isom35]

even if we sign the Lost treaty, there’s no guarantee Ben and the Others will abide by it. I want to hear Locke’s input in this more.

[lilylangtree]

Law of the Sea Treaty is terrible. Just like giving away the Panama Canal, the US will succumb to the dictates of the UN. Egad! Reminds me of Star Wars: Revenge of the Sith.

[Edgerunner]

Sounds like Bush is with the rest of the elites...

[Digger]

Here again, another nail in a screwed up administration. It’s now in my mind that GW will go down with Jimmah & his adopted bro, Bubba, as the worst presidents in modern time. How sad. These Klintoons & Bushes are so bad that they guarantee the other faction in the cartel of being elected after their departure. Nice legacy.

[sageb1]

I have never understood why the administration supported this.

[sageb1]

Developing a Global Marshall Plan:
A Blueprint for Global Economic Renewal

http://lass.calumet.purdue.edu/cca/jgcg/2006/fa06/jgcg-fa06-lorentz-gmp.htm

[rabscuttle385]

The last time Locke provided “input”...he blew up The Others’ submarine, as well as The Hatch. Now, input from Rousseau might be valuable.

[SwankyC]

I want to hear Locke’s input in this more.

Locke is dead...

[Scotswife]

hee hee!
I was hoping this was a LOST thread!

I think everyone is concentrating on the wrong enemy while the smoke monster is galavanting about assuming the forms of dead loved ones.
Why DOES it do that?

And why did it want to lure Hurley off a cliff?

[MosesKnows]

the flawed treaty vetoed by President Ronald Reagan

I guess this is where President Bush and I part ways. It has been most difficult to continue to support him up to now but this finishes it for me.

[Scotswife]

He was still breathing at the end of the show.
Maybe Jacob will help him.
Maybe Lock IS Jacob.

[Eric in the Ozarks]

They’ve lost their minds.

[K-oneTexas]

LOST is a bad treaty. As is the International Criminal Court. Our sovereignty should not be subject to any interpretation other than the US Constitution.

The thing won't die! By Henry Lamb
May 17, 2007
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/printer-friendly.asp?ARTICLE_ID=55729

Every time the saviors of sovereignty call out the troops to stomp the life out of the Law of the Sea Treaty, it appears that they succeed – but the damn thing won't die. It just keeps coming back and coming back again.

President Clinton repaired, reworked, polished and shined the thing, and then parked it in the U.S. Senate. Fortunately, the saviors of sovereignty stomped it to a pulp. Then, while other sovereignty-stealers lurked in other legislation, John F. Turner talked his pal, Dick Cheney, into talking his pal, George Bush, into quietly resurrecting the Law of the Sea Treaty in 2004. Before anyone was the wiser, the Foreign Relations Committee, then-chaired by Sen. Richard Lugar, passed the thing unanimously.

And then all hell broke loose.

Sovereignty-minded organizations and individuals (http://www.thelibertycommittee.org/lost.htm) from across the nation besieged the Senate switchboard and e-mail channels. Sovereignty savior Sen. James Inhofe cried foul, and suddenly, there was not sufficient support to ratify the treaty. Tennessee Sen. Bill Frist, then-majority leader, stomped the life out of it again – or so it appeared.

Now, Turner and has globalist friends in the State Department are at it again. Turner is the assistant secretary of state for Oceans and International Environmental and Scientific Affairs. He was in charge of the Fish and Wildlife Service during George H.W. Bush's term. He calls Wyoming home, as does his friend, Dick Cheney. The two are old fishing buddies, and both have a track record of hob-nobbing on the boards of directors of major corporations. Turner serves on the boards of Ashland, Inc.; Peabody Energy; and International Paper. He also has a long history with a variety of environmental organizations. Until he went to work for the government, he was president and chief executive officer of The Conservation Fund.

Nothing about the treaty has changed since 2004. It is just as horrible today as it was the last time it was stomped. The only thing that is different is the make-up of the Senate. The Republican administration must think the Democrat-controlled Senate will be more receptive to the sovereignty-swallowing treaty than was the Republican majority.

Any elected official who reads Article 2(3) and is not enraged at the idea of ratification should be sent packing and retrained in Constitution 101. The article clearly says:
"... [S]overeignty over the territorial sea is exercised subject to this Convention and to other rules of international law."

Not only would this treaty give the U.N. jurisdiction over the open seas – 70 percent of the Earth's surface – it would require that U.S. sovereignty over U.S. territorial seas be exercised "... subject to this Convention and other rules of international law." Outrageous! And this is one of the least offensive provisions.

The treaty also creates an International Seabed Authority with the power to levy a $250,000 tax (application fee) on anyone who wishes to explore the seabed. It would also tax (royalties) everything that might be excavated from the seabed. It requires technology transfer from the nations that have technology to the nations that don't – under the supervision of the U.N., of course. A more thorough analysis of the treaty is available online (http://sovereignty.freedom.org/center/los-test.shtml).

Sovereignty saviors, conservatives for the most part, are already reeling from the administration's failure to enforce immigration laws; its pursuit of the integration of Mexico and Canada with the United States through the Security and Prosperity Partnership; and the mealy-mouthed, teeter-totter talk about limiting and capping carbon dioxide emissions. This announcement about the reintroduction of the Law of the Sea Treaty cannot be reconciled with anything bearing a conservative label.

Of all the so-called "environmental" treaties that have come down the pike in recent years, none is as comprehensive or as important to the creation of global governance as the Law of the Sea Treaty. Absolute authority over 70 percent of the Earth's surface and taxing power for an international agency under the control of the U.N. create a situation that should give nightmares to every American.

This treaty must be stopped. Constituents in every state should require their senators to take a public position on this treaty. As many times as this thing as been before the Senate, no senator can get by with the usual "... I'll take your concerns into consideration as I listen to the debate."

Every senator knows today whether he or she will vote for or against ratification. Voters need to know now, not after the vote is taken.

This time, Americans need to stomp this thing to death, cut off its head and bury it deep. Never again should this treaty threaten the sovereignty of the United States of America.


Henry Lamb is the Executive Vice President of the Environmental Conservation Organization (http://www.eco.freedom.org/el/) and Chairman of Sovereignty International (http://www.sovereignty.net/).

[lonevoice]

Locke is sooo not dead. Here's a screencap of the image of Jacob as he briefly appeared onscreen before slamming Ben against the wall. Jacob screencap from Lostpedia.com Without a doubt, that IS John Locke with long hair and the raggedy old pirate clothes favored by the Others (because the original non-Ben Others were the survivors of the Black Rock slavetrader ship). Sooner or later the Losties are going to have to understand that they've been catapulted into an alternate universe created by a rift in the space-time continuum. Or something like that. :-P

How do you make a LOST treaty with people like that?

[finnman69]

[Romulus]

Why does an administration that says we don't need a "permission slip" to defend ourselves...

Because the Iraq war was never really about self-defense.

[sageb1]

Historical perspective

Chapter 12
The International Law of the Sea in a Globalized World

http://www.ndu.edu/inss/books/Books_2002/Globalization_and_Maritime_Power_Dec_02/13_ch12.htm

[FortWorthPatriot]

“Tis only a flesh wound!”

[sageb1]

“Sovereignty-minded organizations and individuals (http://www.thelibertycommittee.org/lost.htm) from across the nation besieged the Senate switchboard and e-mail channels.”

Ron Paul’s Liberty Committee?