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Methodist leader equates U.S. flag to swastika (Mark Toolie on the job)
WND ^ | 5-18-2007 | Mark D. Tooley

Posted on 05/18/2007 6:20:57 AM PDT by bmwcyle

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Mark is on the job and is looking out for you. Satan is his liberal church devils are at it again.
1 posted on 05/18/2007 6:21:06 AM PDT by bmwcyle
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To: Apple Blossom

ping


2 posted on 05/18/2007 6:21:29 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Satan is working both sides of the street in World Socialism and World Courts.)
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Then you, Pastor Piece of Sh*t, can get the hell out of the country and take your liberal scum worshippers with you.


3 posted on 05/18/2007 6:23:05 AM PDT by pissant
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Morning pissant


4 posted on 05/18/2007 6:24:11 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Satan is working both sides of the street in World Socialism and World Courts.)
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Rev. Clayton Childers is no better than the jerks on FR who bash the Confederate Flag.


5 posted on 05/18/2007 6:25:23 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: bmwcyle

Buenos Dias.


6 posted on 05/18/2007 6:26:53 AM PDT by pissant
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If they hate America so much, it is time for them to leave.


7 posted on 05/18/2007 6:29:36 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Satan is working both sides of the street in World Socialism and World Courts.)
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One need only recall the way the swastika flag was displayed prominently in German churches during the Nazi era."

This foolish and and ignorant man is trivializing the meaning and practice of Nazism.

Did he ever watch "The Eternal Jew". Goebbel's hideous masterpice of anti-semetic propaganda?

If he had (and it's clear that he hasn't), he'd know that Nazism wasn't about flags, it was about murder, genocide, and barbarism.

8 posted on 05/18/2007 6:34:14 AM PDT by angkor
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and the Methodists wonder why their churches are losing people and money.


9 posted on 05/18/2007 6:34:26 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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"The United Methodist Church, under its liberal leadership, is losing over 50,000 members a year,

I crossed the Tiber four years ago, and have not regretted one moment of it.

10 posted on 05/18/2007 6:34:49 AM PDT by mware (By all that you hold dear..on this good earth... I bid you stand! Men of the West!)
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This kind of foolishness has been going on for a long time and will continue. “Christians” don’t seem to have a clue about who has taken over the national church organizations. If your church contributes to any national organization you can be sure that you are supporting Childers and his fellow America haters. Watch where your money goes.


11 posted on 05/18/2007 6:35:00 AM PDT by FreePaul
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Hola bmw.


12 posted on 05/18/2007 6:35:39 AM PDT by mware (By all that you hold dear..on this good earth... I bid you stand! Men of the West!)
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To: mware

Good morning to you.


13 posted on 05/18/2007 6:36:27 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Satan is working both sides of the street in World Socialism and World Courts.)
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To: mware

I got out in the mid-90s and have never looked back.


14 posted on 05/18/2007 6:41:59 AM PDT by rod1 (uake)
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To: bmwcyle
The comments came from Rev. Clayton Childers, of the Washington-based United Methodist Board of Church and Society, who said, "The presence of a national flag in worship can imply endorsement of national policies which often run counter to the teachings of Jesus Christ and our Christian faith. … One need only recall the way the swastika flag was displayed prominently in German churches during the Nazi era."

It can only imply endorsement of national policies if the church endorses those policies, or remains silent about those it opposes.

The swastika flag in German churches at that time should have been a constant reminder of what the church stood in opposition to, even if they could not oppose it overtly.

I likely disagree with this Methodist leader on much of what the church should oppose in our government. I also disagree that removing the flag is the right approach.

If you don't agree with what your government is doing, it's your responsibility to do what you can to change it. Christianity teaches us to be moral members of society. While Christianity does teach forgiveness of the repentant, it also teaches personal accountability.

Much of the Church seems to have forgotten that forgiveness is something that comes in response to repentance and has abandoned the concept of personal responsibility for sinful actions.

15 posted on 05/18/2007 6:42:14 AM PDT by untrained skeptic
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and the Methodists wonder why their churches are losing people and money.

One person doesn’t speak for the whole church.
I am not a Methodist and, know nothing about their worship but, I do know how the MSM like distorting and church org.


16 posted on 05/18/2007 6:42:57 AM PDT by buck61
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17 posted on 05/18/2007 6:45:51 AM PDT by BenLurkin
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And to think I was seriously considering renewing my "faith" in the UMC and start attending again.
Not after this. I was suspecting after they gave the minister what amounted to a free pass for performing a "gay marriage" the liberals have sacked the UMC. This confirms it.
I'm done with the UMC.


18 posted on 05/18/2007 6:47:32 AM PDT by Sir Hailstone (Stolzer Nachkomme der ZUGELASSENEN Immigranten)
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To: bmwcyle

This sure ain’t the Methodist Church that my parents used to drag me to every Sunday.


19 posted on 05/18/2007 6:47:38 AM PDT by LibKill ("RUDY GIULIANI" is just "HILLARY CLINTON" misspelled and wearing a dress.)
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I heard this stupid arguement about 10 years ago from a Byzantine priest who said his Eastern European visitors were SHOCKED to see an American Flag on a pole behind the altar railing. So, the hammera$$ took it away and put it in the back of the church. Promptly, quite a few members of the church (I included) walked out. When he followed us and asked us why we were leaving, we told him that if it weren’t for that same flag that the Easter European visitors were degrading, they be forced members of the Nazi party or would have been put to death.

I don’t know about the others, but I left and never came back.


20 posted on 05/18/2007 6:50:41 AM PDT by laweeks
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