Postmodern Physics - Colleges Fail to Teach Basics - Even in Physics!

popecenter.org ^ | May 16, 2007 | Frank Tipler

[Tribune7]

What you said was "When breeding horses for speed, it's useful to know that training the sire won't make the foals faster."

What I pointed out is that his has been understood for millenia.

Evolution is such a familiar idea now that it's hard to remember that it wasn't obvious to earlier generations.

Again, you seem to be implying that ancient horse/dog/cattle breeders were unaware that traits were passed on through breeding and seem to be implying that they tried to "train" the traits.

Which is rather bizarre.

Regardless, Darwin did not provide any enlightnment with regard to the mechanism for heredity. The credit goes, entirely, to Mendel.

[xenophiles]

*sigh* I think I've won the debate, but you're going to win on endurance.

What you said was "When breeding horses for speed, it's useful to know that training the sire won't make the foals faster." What I pointed out is that [this] has been understood for millenia.

You didn't point it out, you asserted it with no supporting evidence. I presented ample evidence that it was not understood in early nineteenth century Europe, the most scientifically advanced society that had ever existed and one with a strong interest in horse breeding. This is very strong indirect evidence that your assertion is... well... I guess the word is "false".

I could try to dig up a quote by some roman notable saying "if you run your stallion in many races he will develop speed which he will pass on to his foals", but honestly I don't see the point; even if I found one you'd just retreat into irrelevancies about mechanisms or vague mush language about training traits.

[Tribune7]

I presented ample evidence that it (selective breeding) was not understood in early nineteenth century Europe,

ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!

Charles Darwin discussed how selective breeding had been successful in producing change over time in his book Origin of Species. The first chapter of the book discusses selective breeding and domestication of such animals as pigeons, dogs and cattle. Selective breeding is used as a springboard to introduce the theory of natural selection, and to support it.

IOW, he recognized that traits were passed on along a bloodline via breeding was long and well understood.

[aNYCguy]

The ship’s crane was running enough voltage to fry the meter that was left on it.

Can you offer any more information? Forgive me if I'm skeptical.

[Eva]

Ohhh, that’s an old one. Yep, it was radio waves. The FCC had issued a license for a new station and it was aimed right at the dock. But eventually the whole refinery and other businesses in the area discovered a similar problem. The FCC, in typical gov’t fashion told he existing businesses to deal with it because they couldn’t withdraw the approval of the license to operate the radio station.

[Eva]

I forgot to tell you how they solved the problem. The refinery had to rent a crane, at a huge expense and run a ground wire from the ship to shore every time the ship came in to their docks.