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Deal struck on immigration bill (in the Senate, now over to the House for action)
AP on Yahoo ^ | 5/17/07 | Julie Hirschfeld Davis - ap

Posted on 05/17/2007 10:16:31 AM PDT by NormsRevenge

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To: Slothrop66

how many ‘legal’ residents of US have that many SS#’s?


1,321 posted on 05/17/2007 8:07:28 PM PDT by milwguy
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To: Rutles4Ever

“Tell me how you’re going to separate all of these citizen children from their alien parents.”

Step #1 - REvoke the law that grants citizenship status to children born to illegals.

Step #2 - When you catch on, put him, his wife, and his family on a bus to Mexico City.


1,322 posted on 05/17/2007 8:09:49 PM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: milwguy

you can bet the Milwaukee journal/sentinel will go out of their way to avoid naming him an illegal immigrant


1,323 posted on 05/17/2007 8:10:02 PM PDT by hercuroc
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To: sand88
How elitist of you to think we will grab our shotguns.

That's incredible. I'm the elitest.

Latinos overwhelmingly vote democratic. It is delusional to think they will vote Republican.

Who was it that helped win Florida in 2000? Without the Cuban backlash against Janet Reno and the Clinton administration we'd be graced with at least four years of Algore in the White House. Or was that just an illusion?

1,324 posted on 05/17/2007 8:11:07 PM PDT by Rutles4Ever (Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita eterna)
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To: SittinYonder
I don't care how many generations you've got in America,...

Why does this not surprise me? But then why did you ask?

... our country was set up so that first generation Americans - which he will be - are equal to everyone else.

Like I said, non-Citizen. Thanks for playing. Blackbird.

1,325 posted on 05/17/2007 8:11:30 PM PDT by BlackbirdSST (Just when you think it can't possibly get any worse, another day dawns!)
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To: jveritas

Secure the borders FIRST and AFTER we verify the securing methods are really working and illegal crossings are under control, then and only then consider a bill on what to do with illegal immigrants already here. Please quit saying we can’t deport all of them. We know that and most are not saying that.


1,326 posted on 05/17/2007 8:11:32 PM PDT by maxter
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To: Rutles4Ever
Figure out how to displace 12 million people in a humane way, then get back to me. I don’t care that you’re the son of Mexican immigrants. Tell me how you’re going to separate all of these citizen children from their alien parents.

Nice Dem talking points. You obviously benefit from illegals somehow.

1,327 posted on 05/17/2007 8:13:14 PM PDT by TUAN_JIM (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: NormsRevenge
"Democratic Sen. Barack Obama of Illinois said the compromise needs work. "Without modifications, the proposed bill could devalue the importance of family reunification, replace the current group of undocumented immigrants with a new undocumented population consisting of guest workers who will overstay their visas, and potentially drive down wages of American workers," Obama said in a statement." Perhaps I could vote for Obama. If he wins, Kennedy's influence is OVER! ... and I get even with the GOP for betraying Conservatives.
1,328 posted on 05/17/2007 8:13:42 PM PDT by Sam Ketcham (Amnesty means vote dilution, & increased taxes to bring us down to the world poverty level.)
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To: PeskyOne

Great job!! Super post.


1,329 posted on 05/17/2007 8:14:30 PM PDT by Dutch Tulip
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To: Rutles4Ever
Figure out how to displace 12 million people in a humane way, then get back to me. I don’t care that you’re the son of Mexican immigrants. Tell me how you’re going to separate all of these citizen children from their alien parents.

Do you worry about family separation for other criminals? How about rapists? Who's going to take care of their kids while they are away? Maybe we should grant them amnesty.

1,330 posted on 05/17/2007 8:15:10 PM PDT by TUAN_JIM (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: BlackbirdSST
But then why did you ask?

I didn't ask you how many generations your family goes back. You offered that as if to prove your somehow better.

Like I said, non-Citizen

Thanks, now we're back to my original question, which was - do you consider yourself a better class of citizen than a first-generation citizen? So when he's got citizenship, will you still argue that your opinion matters more?

1,331 posted on 05/17/2007 8:16:10 PM PDT by SittinYonder (Ic þæt gehate, þæt ic heonon nelle fleon fotes trym, ac wille furðor gan)
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To: TUAN_JIM

My reading of the 14th Amendment is that the children born to people subject to a foreign government are NOT citizens. The parents caused the problem, not I... and I assure you the family can be united in the banana republic of their choosing.


1,332 posted on 05/17/2007 8:16:21 PM PDT by Sam Ketcham (Amnesty means vote dilution, & increased taxes to bring us down to the world poverty level.)
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To: Rutles4Ever
Figure out how to displace 12 million people in a humane way, then get back to me. I don’t care that you’re the son of Mexican immigrants. Tell me how you’re going to separate all of these citizen children from their alien parents.

They are free to take their offspring back with them.

1,333 posted on 05/17/2007 8:16:30 PM PDT by TUAN_JIM (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: NormsRevenge

Break the law get amnesty. If I rob a bank will I too get amnesty? Well a lot of people rob banks so I guess you could say “everyne is doing it”.


1,334 posted on 05/17/2007 8:19:42 PM PDT by Screamname (The only reason time exists is so everything doesn`t happen all at once - Albert Einstein)
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To: Sam Ketcham
My reading of the 14th Amendment is that the children born to people subject to a foreign government are NOT citizens. The parents caused the problem, not I... and I assure you the family can be united in the banana republic of their choosing.

That's what I'm saying. The people on this board supporting this amnesty have no respect for this country's sovereignty or culture. They probably make money off the backs off illegals, and they don't want their gravy train derailed.

1,335 posted on 05/17/2007 8:19:53 PM PDT by TUAN_JIM (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Jack Black

One thing that I have been doing for years on this issue, is to fax free with NumbersUSA.com and they have done a good job in places to force the GOP to stand up against Bush every once in awhile. By Mon. we all need 41 Senators to vote NO on cloture. There is still time to effect changes in this 1000 page monstrosity. But, we cannot give up and yes, the GOP still must unite as well as with conservs of all stripes because if one can see Hell coming, either Hil or BO would be even worse than this bill attributes.


1,336 posted on 05/17/2007 8:26:54 PM PDT by phillyfanatic
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To: Zathras

Tell me about it. My mother is so furious about this she wrote Bush about 5 times already. She came from Scotland about 40 years ago and said she “busted her arse” to do it legal, worked and saved her money for years, studied everything about US history and eventually she got in and eventually became a citizen. She is absolutely nuts that these criminals (and they are criminals because they are breaking the law) can just cut ahead of everyone and the government is all la-di-da go ahead about it. It makes everything she did to do it legal a huge insult and she said she will never vote Republican again. Thanks GW for all but insuring Hellary is our next POTUS.


1,337 posted on 05/17/2007 8:27:59 PM PDT by Screamname (The only reason time exists is so everything doesn`t happen all at once - Albert Einstein)
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To: NormsRevenge
The new flag arrangement over the capitol building:


1,338 posted on 05/17/2007 8:28:09 PM PDT by 50mm (algore uses 20 times as much energy as me)
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To: SittinYonder
I didn't ask you how many generations your family goes back. You offered that as if to prove your somehow better.

Are you a better class of citizen than first generation citizens?

Based on my Heritage alone, stacked against a non-Citizen, absolutely.

Thanks, now we're back to my original question, which was - do you consider yourself a better class of citizen than a first-generation citizen? So when he's got citizenship, will you still argue that your opinion matters more?

I'll argue right/wrong to my last breath. How much time ya'll got? Unless you have some other point to make, especially if all you can do is attempt to denigrate my long Heritage in this Country to that of an admited non-Citizen, then I think we're done. Go troll somewhere else now ya' hear. Blackbird.

1,339 posted on 05/17/2007 8:29:23 PM PDT by BlackbirdSST (Just when you think it can't possibly get any worse, another day dawns!)
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To: Rutles4Ever

“Figure out how to displace 12 million people in a humane way”

Isn’t that a risk they took when they came here illegally?


1,340 posted on 05/17/2007 8:41:22 PM PDT by popdonnelly (Our first responsibility is to keep the power of the Presidency out of the hands of the Clintons.)
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