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Carter Challenging Baptists On Conversions, Says Rabbi [Shouldn't convert Jews]
Jewish Weel ^ | 5-10-07

Posted on 05/14/2007 8:16:11 AM PDT by SJackson

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1 posted on 05/14/2007 8:16:14 AM PDT by SJackson
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To: 1st-P-In-The-Pod; 2ndDivisionVet; A_Conservative_in_Cambridge; af_vet_rr; agrace; albyjimc2; ...
My dog is more of a rabbi than this putz Michae Lerner.

I don't have a dog, which means that anybody's dog is more of a rabbi than this putz Michael Lerner.

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2 posted on 05/14/2007 8:20:22 AM PDT by Alouette (It is reminiscent of the world-famous Jewish conspiracy, now extended to also include Jews.)
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To: Alouette
I guess Carter was not satisfied by being anti Semitic and needed to also be anti Christian. However, in defense of Carter he is an “equal opportunity bigot.”
3 posted on 05/14/2007 8:22:57 AM PDT by cpdiii (Pharmacist, Pilot, Geologist, Oil Field Trash and proud of it.)
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To: SJackson
“I’d like to see the leaders form a combined group and take my invitation to go to Palestine and see what’s going on for yourselves,” Carter said Thursday at the campus, where relations between Jewish and Arab students are tense. “If you take me up on it, I’ll raise the money to pay for your trip.”

He has gone from untrustworthy "peacebroker" to out-and-out Hamas booster.

It's appalling that such a fundamentally unserious person was ever President.

4 posted on 05/14/2007 8:23:13 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: SJackson

Lerner is a moron.

The SBC supports Israel because the Bible says to support Israel. If the Bible said “jump,” they’d ask “how high.” That’s all there is to it.

A smart person does what God says, b/c God is God.


5 posted on 05/14/2007 8:24:12 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Fred Thompson)
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To: SJackson
This is a tough one...

Jesus wants us to try to convert Jews, Carter does not want us to....

Who should I believe? What a pickle.....

6 posted on 05/14/2007 8:24:39 AM PDT by Onelifetogive (Liberals are willing to sacrifice any amount of someone else's money to increase their own power...)
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To: SJackson

We need the obligatory, Hey Jimmie STFU!


7 posted on 05/14/2007 8:25:23 AM PDT by grb
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oh, the peanut said something?? yawn


8 posted on 05/14/2007 8:26:50 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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“devout Southern Baptist” ?? apparently not.

“Book of Revelations”. Nope. There’s no such name in my Bible, just the Revelation (to John).

Carter seems to have left simple Christian theology behind, plus most all of Paul’s teachings (and much of Peters’), the Book of Hebrews, and what Christ Himself said about “no man [comes to God] except by me.”

Now, one is not forced to believe this, but there is little (OK, none) question in the new testament text that there Jesus was/is the Messiah, that He was the final and perfect sacrifice, and that He is now the believers’ advocate before God. Even a secular person analysing the passages as simply a book would reach this conclusion.

Again, no one is forced to believe this, but for Carter to be ‘devout’ and state otherwise is disingenuous at best.

He can state his beliefs to be otherwise, but he cannot be a ‘devout Southern Baptist’ or even a serious student of the Christian faith and do so.


9 posted on 05/14/2007 8:26:50 AM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitor)
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Carter described his efforts to counter the extreme right-wing Christian Zionists, and his efforts to help the Baptists understand that the real way to be allies to the Jews is not by giving unconditional support to the current government of the State of Israel...In a phone interview from California, the rabbi said Carter, a devout Southern Baptist, “has been involved and continues to be involved in theological debate within the American Baptists on the issue of how best to serve Jewish interests...“He pointed out the strong connections between Christian Zionism and the desire to push the Jews eventually toward converting to Christianity or burning in hell. He pointed out that the Christian Zionist view is part of that general theology that essentially views the Jews as an obstacle, not as friends, but temporarily views the Jews as friends in the process of bringing back Jesus and at that point having all of us convert

The Jewish community is much more sophisticated than maybe the president thinks. If I had heard this from Jimmy Carter a year ago, perhaps it could be taken a little more seriously. He is making a straw man out of these extreme Christian Zionists and beating them down.
Rabbi James Rudin

I'm sure none of this has anything to do with the intifada and Carters proposed "final solution".

Sweet of Jimmy to worry about the fate of the world Jewry.

Cyrus Vance…confirmed to then-New York mayor Ed Koch that Carter, if reelected, would "sell out" the Jews
Jimmy Carter shortly before the 1980 election

…at a March 1980 meeting with his senior political advisers, angrily snapped, "If I get back in, I`m going to f--- the Jews."
Jimmy Carter, March 1980

…had I been elected to a second term, with the prestige and authority and influence and reputation I had in the region, we could have moved to a final solution
Jimmy Carter, 12-1-2003


10 posted on 05/14/2007 8:27:08 AM PDT by SJackson (Arab leaders don't give a damn whether the refugees live or die, R. Garroway, UNWRA director, 8/58)
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To: Blueflag

please omit the extraneous “there” in my sentence.

we regret the error.


11 posted on 05/14/2007 8:28:37 AM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitor)
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To: Alouette
re: I don't have a dog, which means that anybody's dog is more of a rabbi than this putz Michael Lerner.)))

The only ally Israel has in the US is the evangelical. The only enemy Lerner (along with almost all American Jews) can see to Jews is the evangelical. This is so tiresome, so wearisome.

Eventually, typical evangelicals will despair and shrug--and like that guy who wrote the "Purpose Driven" books, will fall prey to the faux respect they might receive from the Democrats--who are more boldly antisemite and anti-Israel.

13 posted on 05/14/2007 8:29:12 AM PDT by Mamzelle
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1. Jews are our best friends in the Middle East regardless
if you are an Atheist, Christian, Jew, or even Voodoo
Priest.

2. Jesus says he is the narrow gate to God. He set the
rules, not Evangelicals.

3. No Christian wants other people going to Hell, we
don’t even get to choose.

4. The end of the earth is on God’s timetable. We can’t
anything to speed up or slow down the time God has set.

5 I always hear liberals say evangelical Christians want
Jews back in the middle east so they can be slaughtered
in Armageddon. I have never actually heard an
Evangelical say anything like that.

6. It is an Evangelical’s job to Evangelize. I realize
that is offensive to some, but it does not represent
hatred for they people they evangelize, just the
opposite.

7. Jimmy Carter is an idiot, and does not understand the
faith he claims to be a part of.

14 posted on 05/14/2007 8:29:54 AM PDT by dangerdoc (dangerdoc (not actually dangerous any more))
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To: SJackson

It is so obvious that Carter is trying to play both ends against the middle here on behalf of his new Saudi employers. How convenient for him that he finds a stooge like Lerner to carry his water.


15 posted on 05/14/2007 8:31:59 AM PDT by Nachum
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To: cpdiii

Jimmy Carter knows better.! God isn’t within a million miles of his views on how to get to Heaven!


16 posted on 05/14/2007 8:34:09 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek
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To: Nachum

I wish to God that Jimmah Carter would just SHUT UP.


17 posted on 05/14/2007 8:34:29 AM PDT by Carolinamom (God is pleased to get knee-mails.)
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To: SJackson

More about “Rabbi” Michael Lerner:

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=632


18 posted on 05/14/2007 8:39:46 AM PDT by LibFreeOrDie (L'Chaim!)
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To: Alouette
My dog is more of a rabbi than this putz Michae Lerner.


19 posted on 05/14/2007 8:41:18 AM PDT by SJackson (Arab leaders don't give a damn whether the refugees live or die, R. Garroway, UNWRA director, 8/58)
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Christian Zionists can be better friends of Israel by challenging its government’s policies, while accepting Judaism as a legitimate path to God, Carter told a group organized by Rabbi Michael Lerner

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This confirms what I have always known: Carter is satan.

20 posted on 05/14/2007 8:43:15 AM PDT by Manic_Episode (Some mornings, it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps...)
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