Posted on 05/14/2007 2:16:01 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Ah, no. Stars have precursors, dust. In other words, there is a before energy state before stars, a state or states of energy that, sometimes, forms into stars.
Well then, lets be more fundemental. Oil is ‘enviro’ fuel.
Ethanol is merely a not very efficient method of turning solar energy into liquid fuel. The article uncited reference to ethanol needing more energy to produce than it contains is almost certainly the result of bad numbers and/or old numbers (probably both). Even the backers of ethanol only claim that they get 1.6 units of energy for every one unit of non-solar energy. There are several much more efficient methods to produce transportable fuel from solar energy. The ones that I know about are bio-diesel (probably only a niche fuel in the end); Hydrogen; and butanol if you believe BP's press releases.
“That’s fine, but because the market price of corn exceeds government target prices, corn growers don’t receive welfare. Much as, I suppose, because you have a job which exceeds minimum income standards you don’t receive welfare either.”
I’d love to have “government target prices” to insulate me from market realities. I’m thinking about starting my own Video Game Tester’s Union. Anyone wanna join? It’ll be great. We can form our own voting block (comprised mostly of high school dropouts and college dormrats). We can pressure some federal reps into introducing legislation which will establish a “minimum income standard” for us. If they don’t then we can show solidarity by voting someone into office who will pander to us. Any takers?
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