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LEDs emerge to fight fluorescents
AP ^ | 05/10/07 | PETER SVENSSON

Posted on 05/11/2007 7:07:03 AM PDT by nypokerface

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1 posted on 05/11/2007 7:07:03 AM PDT by nypokerface
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...lawmakers in the U.S. and abroad are talking about banning the century-old technology because of its contribution to global warming.

And again, Global WarmingTM is presumed to be factual, beyond discussion.

I can hardly wait for the coming carbon emission tax for simply breathing!

2 posted on 05/11/2007 7:08:58 AM PDT by TChris (The Democrat Party: A sewer into which is emptied treason, inhumanity and barbarism - O. Morton)
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Now LEDs I can really get behind. They will last for 25-40 years, are far more efficient than fluorescents, create almost no heat, emit a very pleasing light, and don’t require a hazmat team if you break one. I would put them all over my house if they came to market.


3 posted on 05/11/2007 7:11:16 AM PDT by domenad (In all things, in all ways, at all times, let honor guide me.)
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Organic LED’s are even better (OLED) but are a bit slow coming to market.


4 posted on 05/11/2007 7:17:45 AM PDT by xcamel (Press to Test, Release to Detonate)
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To: domenad

I agree 100%, I got tired of replacing our pool light every two to three years. I bought a LED pool light. It’s not as bright, but I can change it to different colors if I want. I don’t foresee having to replace it ever.


5 posted on 05/11/2007 7:18:42 AM PDT by steveo (Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana.)
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To: nypokerface
using about five times more energy to produce the same amount of light.

That's news to me.
6 posted on 05/11/2007 7:19:59 AM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: domenad

You mean you would switch without being told to by the government?

Gee - just the way the free market is supposed to work.


7 posted on 05/11/2007 7:22:35 AM PDT by NY.SS-Bar9 (DR #1692)
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To: domenad

it cost about a a buck a watt equvilent. For example the light put out by a 60 watt bulb can be replaced with an LED ‘bulb’ for around $60.


8 posted on 05/11/2007 7:23:40 AM PDT by CJ Wolf
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“Now LEDs I can really get behind. They will last for 25-40 years, are far more efficient than fluorescents, create almost no heat, emit a very pleasing light, and don’t require a hazmat team if you break one. I would put them all over my house if they came to market.”

I just ordered two to illuminate a motorcycle in my shop window. To say I am less than impressed is an understatement.

Each bulb I ordered was about 45$ and has 72 LED’s in each one. They draw 8 watts each. When hung 6 feet above the motorcycle they light up about as much as a pen light with two AA batteries.


9 posted on 05/11/2007 7:23:45 AM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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The performance of LED's degrade over their lifetime. They should probably be replaced one quarter into their expected lifetime. The current generation does produce heat, a lot of it if you want bright light, but that should improve with future generations. It's possible to get pleasing light, but those LED's cost more.

The dominance of LED's is inevitable, but the technology is not quite there yet for house or commercial lighting.

10 posted on 05/11/2007 7:24:14 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: taxed2death
What kind did you get? I've had pretty good luck with these.

http://www.ccrane.com/lights/led-light-bulbs/index.aspx
11 posted on 05/11/2007 7:26:14 AM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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Politicians must think I’m much dumber than I am. Let’s see - modern technology that will pay for itself 50X over, or 19th century technology that heats up my house and only turns 5% of the power into light? Yeah, I need government to make the final call on that.


12 posted on 05/11/2007 7:26:47 AM PDT by domenad (In all things, in all ways, at all times, let honor guide me.)
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Is every aspect of our lives now subject to regulation by government fiat? Is it not sufficient to simply offer a more efficient product, and allow the market to adopt it voluntarily?

I’m tired of the trend towards “little” authoritarianism, and want to turn it back. Who is with me?


13 posted on 05/11/2007 7:27:21 AM PDT by B Knotts
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Good, but watch out for the tungsten nazis to dictate what we screw in our light sockets.


14 posted on 05/11/2007 7:29:47 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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I wouldn’t be surprised if more energy is wasted due to the holes required for typical ceiling “can lights” of any type, as the heat/A-C is wasted from ample leaks. They turn houses into sieves.
15 posted on 05/11/2007 7:48:55 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Your FRiendly FReeper Patent Attorney (...and another "Constitution-bot"))
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To: xcamel

Organic LED’s

Whats that? A firefly?


16 posted on 05/11/2007 7:51:35 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple ( Seeking the truth here folks.)
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To: taxed2death

By the inverse square law the amount of light decreases as the distance from the source increases

I = {P}/{A} = {P}/{4*pi*r^2}


17 posted on 05/11/2007 7:53:34 AM PDT by Ouderkirk (Don't you think it's interesting how death and destruction seems to happen wherever Muslims gather.)
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Here is one, but at $70 is a bit steep in price.

http://www.cyberguys.com/templates/searchdetail.asp?productID=13111

Good Hunting... from Varmint Al

18 posted on 05/11/2007 8:02:09 AM PDT by Varmint Al
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LED bulbs are already on the market but their price is extremely high. You can get soft-lighting, 20-LED bulbs for as little as $15, but they don't put out nearly as much light as a 60-watt bulb. If you want a lot of light, figure on paying $50-$65 or more for each bulb. As compared to less than a dollar for an incandescent bulb, LEDs have a long way to go to end up on every store shelf.

LEDs can definitely deliver on the light though, as I have a 5-watt LED flashlight that is pretty bright and saves the batteries. It's only half as bright as my incandescent flashlight though, which eats bulbs and batteries but puts out 120 lumens.

19 posted on 05/11/2007 8:11:32 AM PDT by Sender ("America is at that awkward stage..." - Claire Wolfe)
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see:
http://www.oled-display.net/whiteoled.htm


20 posted on 05/11/2007 8:13:08 AM PDT by xcamel (Press to Test, Release to Detonate)
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