They Shoot Mormons, Don't They? Religious Bigotry, alive and well today

Saundra Duffy

[restornu]

I am sorry I very seldom where my wordly bifocals, which is the way some folks would process your way of thinking.

As I see it you are “mind reading the Lord’s Church” and beause you assume it, does not so!

[sevenbak]

Quoting a friend: "The dems will gladly trade a Harry Reid for Orin Hatch and the White House and a filibuster-proof Senate." Any attempt to throw mormonism at Mitt will play very well with their base. Their base won't see any difference between one man of faith, George Bush, and another, Mitt Romney.

To the hardened lefties maybe, but the moderates will see right through the hypocrisy and it will backfire on them. Mitt will not only get the votes due to his campaigning, he'll get the sympathy votes from those fed up with dirty politics and political backstabbing. Because of Harry Reid, this is probably the best time possible for Romney to run.

[Netizen]

Don’t forget paying off past tithing indebtedness goads God into restoring Celestial blessings.

[DelphiUser]

DU, you’re wasting your time..your fondest wish has come true, NNN has been banned, I’m sure you’re very happy to know.

It is not my wish to have NNN banned, in fact, I would rather beat hin in the areana of ideas than "in default" if that is what you call it.

My father taught me something (yes, It can be done!) when I was in HS that has served me well ever since. "A man convinced against his will is of the same opinon still."

I did not ask for him to be banned.

I hope that he keeps whatever rules the mods tell him to so he can be back soon.

I for one am ashamed that my actions may have had some part in goading him to take the actions that got him banned.

NNN if you are reading, I am sorry.

[sevenbak]

but you can't possible fathom what thoughts about you are going through my mind. ;-)

Seven there were many admonitions on the other thread about personal attacks. Just a gentle reminder ;-)

No personal attacks, you can't read my mind any more than you can read Romneys. Read what you want into it, don't put words in my mouth. It was meant as humor to illustrate the point.

[colorcountry]

resty, bi-focals help you see things up close as well as far away. I indeed try to wear mine as often as I can, for I like to be able to focus clearly, even when things are right under my nose.

[DelphiUser]

You’re still bashing someone who is banned? Can’t you let it go?

You can leave FreeRepublic, but you can’t leave it alone? LOL

I Didn't know he was banned yet, I am still playing catchup on this thread.

I'll leave him alone now, sorry.

[colorcountry]

Did you get my stab at humor? ;-)

[restornu]

There are still according to the world view, and many times ones personal assumption!

[sevenbak]

Are women allowed to offer the prayers over the sacrament in the LDS church yet? They weren't when I was a member, nor were they allowed to offer the opening or closing prayer in Sacrament meeting.

Women say prayers all the time in Sacrament meeting. The blessing of the sacrament is a priesthood function though, so no, they don't. It would seem your attempt to pigeonhole the LDS as discriminating would also work against the early Church. Are you sure you want to go there? The LDS do not hold these traditions like the early saints did, but you seem to be wanting us to go back to times of old!

Perhaps you'd better tred different waters?

1 CORINTHIANS 14:

34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.

35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.

[sevenbak]

No, I’m not hung up with the Father having a body, I’m saying that since you believe the Father and the Son are one and the same, then Jesus’s resurrected body to you should be draped all over the Father.
The Nicene creed is so hard to understand, yet alone comprehend. Jesus clearly made a great deal of effort to prove to the apostles that he was resurrected. The saints that rose from the dead at his resurrection also made an effort to “appear unto many” It’s a crucial doctrine of Christ, and He wanted us to know it. He didn’t appear unto the apostles as a “spirit” to prove to them he was a spirit. He wanted them to know he was risen! What a glorious message of hope for all of us!

[sevenbak]

Please tell me about Evan Meacham, never heard of him.

[sevenbak]

Last time I check the Utah Capital was not a THEOCRACY. In fact it IS the government of all those various demomination and not just the Mormons......ISN'T IT? But a Christian organization is not a governmental body. They may exclude whomever they want, can't they?

Color, you may want to follow the whole thread. SD was talking specifically about the "California Republican Assembly" where a Mormon was passed over to pray.

[DelphiUser]

>What were you, a mormon, doing in those churches? :)

My mom and Dad were Methodists before they joined, and we had to go with my Grndma and uncles and stuff when we went to visit, so I was “Exposed” early. Had discusions about diffrent religions with my Mom and Dad, so they knew I would not be blind sided by any thing. I never got used to brining money tochurch to put int eh plate, it seemed kind of strange.

My mom and dad did not worry about me going, They knew I had a testimony of my own. I had a deal with smoe of my friends, I would go with them to church one week, they would come to church with me tha next (the had no ieda that Mormons went to church for three hours LOL)

[sevenbak]

Remember, these are the Prophets of Mormonism speaking, the supposedly had a direct connection with the Holy Spirit. I wonder how Bishop Mitt is going to explain that away with a “revelation” that only came in 1978.

I wonder how many people care about ANY statement by ANY religious leader back in those days when discrimination happened as a matter of course. It certainly wasn't limited to LDS. Perhaps you should ask Gladys Knight, she may enlighten you on what that '78 revelation was all about.

[DelphiUser]

Prove it does. I want a list of all of the churches in America where this very morning the pastor stood up in front of the congregation and preached against Mormonism.

Um, first of all it's Saturday.... (grin)

Second, now that I live in Utah, I don't know of any here, but when I lived in Fairfield iowa, Vinton Iowa, Boone Iowa and Ogend Iowa (ogden is really close to Boone) I could have told you which churches, but it's been over 25 years... so I don't even know if those particular churches are still in the same place. But my statment stands that I saw it happen.

Prove it did not.

I would say that unless ther is a movement toward Mormanism happening in their midst, they probably don't have these kind of meetings. (no Mormons around to join = No meetings to try and stop them)

[sevenbak]

Mormonism teaches that the Bible is corrupt.

Mormons don’t teach that the Bible is corrupt. We love and honor the Bible and the records of truth it contains. We believe it to be the word of God, and we also believe that it has been tampered with. We believe that all truth is from God, and he speaks to all his children, in all times, and doesn’t leave us alone with just a 2000 year old collection of writings that divides Christianity into so many thousands of different denominations and sects because they all interpret the bible differently.

This sums up our feelings about the bible.

http://scriptures.lds.org/en/2_ne/29/

[DelphiUser]

I'm saying that I would be very wary of giving the power of the Presidency to someone whose first loyalty is to ANY institution other than the U. S. Constitution. And, I am very aware of how seriously mormons take their temple oaths. I am also aware of the power of Executive Orders.

I would be very wary of Giving the power of the presidency to nyone who did not believe in a higher power, specifically a Higher power that would judge him for his actions while in office.

JM.02

[FastCoyote]

“Is there any point at all where you would consider religion a disqualifier?”

[Speaking for myself, no.]

I am glad you are able to vote for a Muslim for president, someone whose religion states all kafir should be enslaved or dead. It shows you have lost all faculty for reason since you don’t even have a basic sense of self preservation..

[sevenbak]

Read the verse again Color. Here, let me help.

55 But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up steadfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God,
56 And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God.