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They Shoot Mormons, Don't They? Religious Bigotry, alive and well today
Saundra Duffy

Posted on 05/04/2007 5:46:36 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy

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To: FastCoyote

Post #418 is for you, FC.


421 posted on 05/05/2007 7:32:02 AM PDT by JCEccles (“Politics ain’t beanbag” Finley Peter Dunne)
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To: Colofornian
How do you know what Mitt Romney THINKS? I don’t think he has any ill feelings toward anyone, except maybe the jihadists.

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Pull out your Pearl of Great Price...Joseph Smith - History, and go down to verse 19:

"I was answered that I must join none of them [churches], for they were all awrong; and the Personage who addressed me said that all their creeds were an abomination in his sight; that those professors were all corrupt."

This is LDS "scripture" of the First Vision. This is the foundational basis of the LDS faith.

Are you telling me that Mitt denies this? He doesn't believe this account of the First Vision?

Smith, Young, Taylor and Mormonism has been hostile toward Christianity from the start. It's PR campaign started decades ago to improve Mormonism's public image has tried to run away from that, while still maintaining that all Christian churches are apostate and lost, or else they would not be out to convert Christians to Mormonism so they could be "restored" to the "true church". Once again, Mormonism talks out of both sides of it's mouth.

422 posted on 05/05/2007 7:36:47 AM PDT by needlenose_neely
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To: sevenbak
Are all "traditional" Christian Churches the same to God in your opinion?

They are in My opinion. All Christian Churches who firmly are founded in, and teach Biblical truths are equally Christian. Mormonism teaches that the Bible is corrupt. Mormonism teaches that we Christian Churches fight, and divide from one another, and so there is no "true" Church among them. And while it might be true that some Christians disagree, the Church (Christ's Church - all CHRISTIAN followers) does not.

When I became Christian, I was delighted at the great unity among Christian Churches. Maybe you should attend some and find out.

423 posted on 05/05/2007 7:38:45 AM PDT by colorcountry (An Honest Man will change his thoughts to match the truth and a Dishonest Man will change the truth)
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To: Colofornian
(2) Ensign Magazine, the LDS mag, has already said that LDS worship another God than do Christians. So, that being the case, what's wrong with Christians saying the same thing? (That they pray to another Jesus?) 2 Cor. 11:4 says there is "another Jesus"

Well, many Mormons have bought the PR campaign that tries to present Mormonism as "another Christian denomination", when in reality, Mormonism had been hostile toward Christianity and did not want to be associated with any Christian churches.

The PR campaign has been about trying to make Mormonism seem to be something it is not.

424 posted on 05/05/2007 7:40:25 AM PDT by needlenose_neely
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To: Saundra Duffy
wish you’d stop obsessing.

I believe that Jesus Christ died on the cross for me and I feel bad that I’m such a screw-up that He had to pay the price for me. I love Heavenly Father for instituting such a wonderful plan. And the Holy Ghost tells me it’s true.

Please clearly explain what that PLAN was that Christ died to institute. In my understanding of Mormonism, you may gain equality with God, if you do "all you can do," take part in all your ordinances and covenants, and obey the LAW of the Gospel (Mormonism). Christ died so that you may be able to work hard and earn your salvation.

That is hardly what Christians teach. You make it sound like you believe that Christ died to save you or something. When perhaps you believe that Christ died so you can have a chance to live the PLAN.

425 posted on 05/05/2007 7:43:44 AM PDT by colorcountry (An Honest Man will change his thoughts to match the truth and a Dishonest Man will change the truth)
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To: Saundra Duffy
(2) Ensign Magazine, the LDS mag, has already said that LDS worship another God than do Christians. So, that being the case, what's wrong with Christians saying the same thing? (That they pray to another Jesus?) 2 Cor. 11:4 says there is "another Jesus"

I have prayed my head off with people of other faiths - holding hands yet. For God’s sake!!

Praying to a false god with people of other faith's means nothing, even if you are holding hands. All that is, is another Kum Ba Ya moment, that might give some a warm fuzzy feeling, but God does not listen to the prayers offered up to a false god.

426 posted on 05/05/2007 7:44:45 AM PDT by needlenose_neely
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To: FastCoyote
But, let’s talk about my bigotry (of which I am often accused), versus the saintliness of our Mormon apologists:

Coyote, I remember "talks" in mormon sacrament meeting when I was a youngster. One in particular stuck with me. It related how "A young couple traveled many miles to the SLC temple to be married, and as they tried to enter, they were turned away. The gatekeeper stated, 'I had a burning in my bosom that they were unworthy and not to be allowed in.' Then, it was discovered that the man had a Negro great, great grandfather. The Spirit can detect one ounce of Negro blood."

This is the attitude that members in the 50's-60's grew up with.

427 posted on 05/05/2007 7:45:52 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Fred sez "I'm not interested in being the tallest midget in the room.." RUN FRED RUN!)
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To: sevenbak
Ah, but he saw Jesus didn't he? Standing right there on the right hand of the Glory of God God,
428 posted on 05/05/2007 7:47:02 AM PDT by colorcountry (An Honest Man will change his thoughts to match the truth and a Dishonest Man will change the truth)
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To: Saundra Duffy

It appears from your article you have never met an evangelical Southerner . You seem to agree with the liberals that we are all racist, biggoted, homophobes, as well as hypocrits in the observance of our religion.

All I can tell you is “Bless Your Heart”.


429 posted on 05/05/2007 7:48:01 AM PDT by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: JCEccles

“So tell me again: between evangelicals and Mormons generally, who judges superficially and hypocritically and who judges righteous judgment?”

Well, since Mormon bedrock principle is that all other Christians and Jews are an apostate abomination headed for hell, I think we know the answer to that one.

I just will not vote for anyone who thinks they are God, or thinks they are on the path to becoming God (like Bishop Mitt). You are asking me to vote in favor of literally a false God - think about that for a minute.


430 posted on 05/05/2007 7:48:44 AM PDT by FastCoyote
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To: antisocial

I lived in Texas for a while, so I can repeat your “bless your heart”.


431 posted on 05/05/2007 7:49:47 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Fred sez "I'm not interested in being the tallest midget in the room.." RUN FRED RUN!)
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To: Saundra Duffy
I believe in the Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
Those are empty words as they are have meanings poured into them that are anti-Biblical and anti-Christian.

I believe Heavenly Father hears my prayers and we always pray “In the Name of Jesus Christ”.

"In the name of Jesus Christ" is not a magic formula, and the Mormon heavenly father is but deceiving spirit, an exalted man who became a god, and is not the God of the Bible and historic Christian faith, but is a false god.

432 posted on 05/05/2007 7:49:52 AM PDT by needlenose_neely
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Evangelicals and liberals agree do on one thing: they despise Mormons. Lying on that common bed of bigotry they are kissing and cuddling like long lost lovers.


433 posted on 05/05/2007 7:51:51 AM PDT by JCEccles (“Politics ain’t beanbag” Finley Peter Dunne)
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To: TAdams8591
You know how I think and feel about Mitt and about Mormon's who I have long been aware, have suffered tremendous bigotry throughout their history. I hate to see this bigotry again rearing it's ugly head in modern day America. You would think we would have gotten beyond it long ago!

Bigotry, the new postmodernist, liberal buzzword to label those who believe in Truth with.

It's nothing but another attempt to suppress the truth in unrighteousness.

434 posted on 05/05/2007 7:52:48 AM PDT by needlenose_neely
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To: JCEccles

“The fact remains that despite the gratuitous smears,”

Hey! Wait a minute! My smears aren’t gratitous! I charge a buck a smear!


435 posted on 05/05/2007 7:53:57 AM PDT by FastCoyote
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To: Invincibly Ignorant
Its hard to believe you would attempt to dispute the persecution of Mormons. Just look at the looneys here on FR who go ballistic every time the word “Mormon” is uttered.

Hi, it IS very nice to see you once again on a Mormon thread. Don't you frequent most of them?

436 posted on 05/05/2007 7:54:00 AM PDT by colorcountry (An Honest Man will change his thoughts to match the truth and a Dishonest Man will change the truth)
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To: colorcountry

Part of the second shift..first shift here earlier.


437 posted on 05/05/2007 7:55:31 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Fred sez "I'm not interested in being the tallest midget in the room.." RUN FRED RUN!)
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To: greyfoxx39

LOL, Feel free sir.


438 posted on 05/05/2007 7:56:00 AM PDT by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: antisocial

It’s ma’m, but thanks ;)


439 posted on 05/05/2007 7:56:58 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Fred sez "I'm not interested in being the tallest midget in the room.." RUN FRED RUN!)
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To: JCEccles
Evangelicals and liberals agree do on one thing: they despise Mormons.

Boy, ya gotta love those smears and hyperbolic misrepresentations with hyper-emotional buzzwords like "despise Mormons" that are used to paint Christians who defend the faith against a false religion, by openly challenging the fantastic claims of Mormonism for truth.

440 posted on 05/05/2007 8:04:42 AM PDT by needlenose_neely
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