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They Shoot Mormons, Don't They? Religious Bigotry, alive and well today
Saundra Duffy

Posted on 05/04/2007 5:46:36 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy

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To: Saundra Duffy

I don’t have a problem with Mormons. I have a problem with Romneycare. BTW, I am afraid too many people will vote a certain way to ‘prove’ they are not prejudiced. People will vote for Hillary to prove they accept a woman president. They will vote for Obama to prove they are not racist. And some Republicans may vote in the primary for Romney to prove they are not prejudiced against Mormons. This is not the way to vote. Nobody likes to be accused of being prejudiced. I hated when pundits accused Louisianans of being racist for not voting for Bobby Jindal for Governor. (I actually think Blank-O stole the election.)


21 posted on 05/04/2007 6:07:37 AM PDT by sportutegrl (Bomb Bomb Bomb Bomb Bomb Iran)
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To: sittnick

Romney wants to pass the buck on abortion like a hot potato.

http://franciscanconservative.blogspot.com/2007/04/mitt-romney-anti-roe-but-not-pro-life.html

As the AP reports, Mitt Romney refuses to back pro-life ultrasound legislation in South Carolina.

His reasoning?

“I would like to see each state be able to make its own law with regard to abortion. I think the Roe v. Wade one-size-fits-all approach is wrong.”

As a reader has pointed out in an earlier post, while Mitt Romney is anti-Roe, he certainly is not pro-life. By refusing to support a Human Life Amendment to the Constitution, Romney is rejecting one of the key planks in the platform of the Republican Party that has been there since 1980. Furthermore, he finds himself to the left on life issues of even Sen. John McCain, who supports such an amendment.

Here is the actual text of Mitt Romney’s published Q&A in the Feb. 10th issue of National Journal:

NJ: You would favor a constitutional amendment banning abortion with exceptions for the life of the mother, rape and incest. Is that correct?

What I’ve indicated is that I am pro-life, and that my hope is that the Supreme Court will give to the states over time or give to the states soon or give to the states their own ability to make their own decisions with regard to their own abortion law.

NJ: If a state wanted unlimited abortion?

The state would fall into restrictions that had been imposed at the federal level, so they couldn’t be more expansive in abortion than currently exists under the law, but they could become more restrictive in abortion provisions. So states like Massachusetts could stay like they are if they so desire, and states that have a different view could take that course. And it would be up to the citizens of the individual states. My view is not to impose a single federal rule on the entire nation — a one-size-fits-all approach — but instead allow states to make their own decisions in this regard.


22 posted on 05/04/2007 6:09:47 AM PDT by Netizen (If we can't locate/deport illegals, how will we get them to come forward to pay their $3,250 fines?)
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To: Saundra Duffy
"Anyone who wouldn't vote for someone just because they are a Mormon is a loon."

How many Mormons are voting for Romney just because he is a Mormon? Are they "loons" also?

If the shoe fits...

23 posted on 05/04/2007 6:10:23 AM PDT by Afronaut (Supporting Republican Liberals is the Undeniable End to Freedom)
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To: cdcdawg

“The ‘Mormon issue’ seems to be more important to the drive-by media than to the grass-roots Republican voters.”

You are right about the drive-by media. They hate Mormons and are using animosity to Mormons exhibited by the so-called Christian right to thumb their noses at all of us. It’s a sick game and unfortunately, IMHO, the religious right has fallen into the trap.


24 posted on 05/04/2007 6:10:55 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy (Mitt Romney for President !!!)
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To: JRochelle

agreed. I can only speak from personal experience, but I have attended church in the South my entire life, and I have never heard anything of the sort.


25 posted on 05/04/2007 6:11:39 AM PDT by cdcdawg
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To: Saundra Duffy
No one knows for sure what happened at Mt Meadows; pure speculation.

Actually there were survivors, a trial and court records were made. We may not have All the details - same as any other crime of the 19th century - but we do know the basics. People alive today have no responsibility for the actions of people over a hundred years ago however.

26 posted on 05/04/2007 6:11:56 AM PDT by MrEdd (Dogs think they're human, Cats think they're Gods.)
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To: Saundra Duffy
you will hear the hurt and frustration in his voice and the unfair treatment surely must have caused many a sleepless night.

Oh, fry me a liver! Jack Kennedy was raised a privileged kid on Cape Cod and in Boston. I've seen the house in Craigville Beach where they lived for a while. It's a three story Victorian Mansion. He was 3 years older than my parents who grew up dirt poor in the Midwest.

It's pretty hard for me to accept anti-Catholic bias existed in Massachusetts given the huge Irish and Italian populations.

Well-written paper but embellished.

27 posted on 05/04/2007 6:11:58 AM PDT by CholeraJoe (I don't give a rat's a$$ where in the world Matt Lauer is.)
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To: JRochelle

Sorry. I have personally heard many anti-Mormon sermons preached from the pulpit.


28 posted on 05/04/2007 6:12:30 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy (Mitt Romney for President !!!)
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To: JRochelle

“Sunday after Sunday, preachers, evangelists, reverends and ministers from all Christian denominations pound the pulpit with anti-Mormon rhetoric.”

That is a damn lie!


Good point! I’ve been to Lutheran, Baptist, Methodist and Catholic services and have never heard any of them even mention Mormons.


29 posted on 05/04/2007 6:13:29 AM PDT by Netizen (If we can't locate/deport illegals, how will we get them to come forward to pay their $3,250 fines?)
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To: CholeraJoe

“Well-written paper but embellished.”

Thanks. It was supposed to be written on a “contemporary controversial subject”.


30 posted on 05/04/2007 6:14:19 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy (Mitt Romney for President !!!)
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To: Saundra Duffy

You are under the false assumption that Mitt’s only problem is his religion.
You couldn’t be more wrong.

Here are some very good reasons not to vote for Mitt Romney.
He is a phony of the highest order.

94, slams Reagan, 07, loves Reagan.
02, disses NRA, 07, joins NRA.
94-04, pro choice, 07, prolife.
94, even more pro gay rights than Ted Kennedy, 07, now, not so much.

And I just started.
You win no one with articles like this. DO you have a link to something that proves that James Dobson will not vote for Romney?


31 posted on 05/04/2007 6:14:39 AM PDT by JRochelle (Al Sharpton: Its hard out here for a race pimp.)
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To: Saundra Duffy
I have several friends and a coworker who are LDS members.
We have interesting conversations with regard to our religious views (as you can imagine), but we generally agree on political issues.
To me Romney being a member of the LDS church is a non-issue - and I'm an evil, right wing Christian conservative - AND a Baptist to boot. :)

GE
32 posted on 05/04/2007 6:15:03 AM PDT by GrandEagle
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To: Saundra Duffy

I don’t believe you.


33 posted on 05/04/2007 6:15:24 AM PDT by JRochelle (Al Sharpton: Its hard out here for a race pimp.)
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To: Saundra Duffy
You are bigoted against Christians.

Your persecution complex is off the charts.

34 posted on 05/04/2007 6:17:15 AM PDT by JRochelle (Al Sharpton: Its hard out here for a race pimp.)
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To: JRochelle

Mrs. Dobson snubbed the Mormons and excluded them from National Day of Prayer so if her husband wants to sleep in a harmonious bed, he better tow the line and he does.


35 posted on 05/04/2007 6:17:34 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy (Mitt Romney for President !!!)
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To: Netizen

Honest and good people can change their minds over time. For example, I voted for Jimmy Carter. Please forgive me; I made a mistake.


36 posted on 05/04/2007 6:19:03 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy (Mitt Romney for President !!!)
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To: JRochelle

See post #22, he’s not as pro life as he would like people to imagine. It’s an illusion.


37 posted on 05/04/2007 6:19:19 AM PDT by Netizen (If we can't locate/deport illegals, how will we get them to come forward to pay their $3,250 fines?)
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To: Saundra Duffy

And from that you assume that he won’t vote for Romney because of his religion?


38 posted on 05/04/2007 6:19:50 AM PDT by JRochelle (Al Sharpton: Its hard out here for a race pimp.)
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To: Saundra Duffy
As a Christian who adheres to the orthodox doctrines of the Christian faith such as the Substitutionary Atonement, the Trinity, the Virgin Birth, the definition of Christ as fully God and fully man as defined at the Council of Chalcedon, and as an evangelical who holds to the Reformation doctrines of sola gratia, sola Scriptura, and solo Christo, and sola fide, I cannot but hold the Mormon religion as being heterodox and doctrinally in conflict with both Scripture and the teachings of the Christian church from the time of the Apostles.

That being said, if a solid political conservative of the Mormon faith, such as the late Ezra Taft Benson, were to run for President, I would support him in a heartbeat. Unfortunately, Mitt Romney was a liberal when he was governor of Massachusetts who is now spouting conservative rhetoric. Why settle for at best a recent convert when there are solid, lifelong conservatives like Duncan Hunter and Tom Tancredo in the race, plus (maybe) Fred Thompson?

39 posted on 05/04/2007 6:21:21 AM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: Netizen

oh come now! You must not look at his record!

You are a bigot.

Exteme sarcasm/


40 posted on 05/04/2007 6:22:18 AM PDT by JRochelle (Al Sharpton: Its hard out here for a race pimp.)
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