Posted on 05/04/2007 5:46:36 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy
Congratulations to you son! And I'm sory to have offended you on that post so long ago!
Sorry I got the impression in all these years I thought you were seal in the Church. I remember you going in one post a few years back of how you did all those duty of LDS wife and going to the temple etc and how your husband did not want you to leave the Church to me this left the impression you were at one time doing the whole 9 yards!
Excuse me!
I just read sevenbak post and saw I have miss something your post, and you seem so quick to say I telling lies when I get a wrong impression of your relationship all these years with the Church!
You said you started to become in active in the Church in the 80’s and you are married for 24 years and it is 2007 now so you must have start to become inactive when around the time I was converted in 1982?
I am one for timelines it helps me to keep order!
Not true!!:
Helaman 12:24
And may God grant, in his great fullness, that men might be brought unto repentance and good works, that they might be restored unto grace for grace, according to their works.
We receive grace for grace, according to our obedience and faithfulness. We do all we can do all the time, so it stands to reason that receiving grace for grace is a lifelong process of blessings from God.
This one might help too:
2 Nephi 28:30
For behold, thus saith the Lord God: I will give unto the children of men line upon line, precept upon precept, here a little and there a little; and blessed are those who hearken unto my precepts, and lend an ear unto my counsel, for they shall learn wisdom; for unto him that receiveth I will give more; and from them that shall say, We have enough, from them shall be taken away even that which they have.
Thank you for defending me it sure can get lonely when there are so few of us!:)
CC I would always want you to be with your husband companionship is priceless and still hurts even after they have pass on!
I look forward to the day when my husband and I reunite someday!:)
I’ve counted 35 LDS people here on FR, not including myself.
Ah, I love that one, thanks. It’s similar to the “I’ll take his lickin’” story. Anyone know where that one is?
Hardly! To illustrate that, look no further than Harry Reid. ;-) LDS are as human as everyone else. We aren't alone among Christian sects who believe strongly in the commandments and the importance of works, (see James 2) but we fail like everyone else. No one is perfect except Christ.
We've all done a lot of Bible quoting lately, perhaps it's time for some Shakespeare:
"If you prick us do we not bleed? If you tickle us do we not laugh? If you poison us do we not die? And if you wrong us, shall we not revenge?" - Merchant of Venice
Why don’t you find out instead of calling me a hypocrite. There are many many factors in decisions like this. Do I hate it yes, but I don’t assume to know everything. Find out who is a member if you can. I don’t know if it’s possible, but there it is:
Also, I'm sure you wouldn't appreciate it if I judged all Baptists on the actions of Jimmy Carter (or worse)
Since when? This is exactly what the Abrahamic covenant was and is for. Read Galatians 3, the whole chapter. Here's the last verse to whet your appetite:
29 And if ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham's’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.
Glad to know thank you for clueing me in!
This reference from Revelations is about the REVELATIONS of John, not the word of God. Were that to be the case, then you could throw out the whole bible after Deuteronomy:
Deut. 4: 2 (2-3). 2 Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.
The Book of Mormon is "Another Testament of Jesus Christ", given by His prophets anciently in a separate land from where He ministered while in the flesh.
"...in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established." Matt 18:16
WHEW! ;-)
WOW, I finally caught up with this last post from yesterday. It's only 2am and I'm still 200 posts from the end. Looks like I continue to fail, thank heaven I don't have to be perfect! ;-) G'Night all.
>> What, got to you? Somebody sold you some
>> scientific mumbo jumbo and you believed
>> it? “Science is the history of saying we
>> were wrong”
No, what got to me is how the church deals with science. For example, the reputable LDS scholars all believe that Joseph Smith was wrong and that the scientists are right that the Lamanite/Nephite civilization are not the principal ancestors of the Native Americans. Why did they change their mind? Is it because there has been ZERO evidence found of the Lamanite/Nephite civilization? Is it because the scientists of all disciplines agree that the ancestors of the Native Americans were people who crossed a land bridge that once existed on the Bering Straits? Whatever it is its happened that they’ve changed their mind about the ancestry of the Native Americans.
BTW for restornu .... I had a very strong testimony. That’s a fact and all your suggestions that this wasn’t so are simply rubbish. I mourned my loss of testimony in Mormonism very deeply and would love to have it back if such a thing were honestly possible. Frankly the biggest problem facing the church today is the ever-willingness of its defenders to spin, lie, distort, withhold the truth, etc. on any issue that comes up which might not make the church look good. Some members wearing rose-colored glasses don’t see how foolish this makes them look. But for those outside the fold its quite obvious. And your statements about me are definitely false.
Jhn 13:16 Verily, verily, I say unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord; neither he that is sent greater than he that sent
Jhn 14:28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come [again] unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.
Define Abrahamic Covenant for our readers.
I told you back in the day when Mormons on FR first started “baiting” me to resign from the Church because I wasn’t being truthful, that my husband asked me not to resign.
He is afraid of the community and family fallout. The threat is real, it may very well impact our business, our relationships and our family. As for me, I don’t care. I maintained my membership because my mother and my husband asked me to, it was important to them.
I regret listening to you people! It was none of your business what I did. But in reality this is a much less painful way for them than if I was dragged into court and excommunicated because I didn’t sustain the Prophet.
(This post is not directed to you Resty, you were supportive of my decision to maintain membership.)
Resty you know my story, quit acting obtuse.
I was Temple married at 17 to an LDS man in the TEMPLE. I was married (I thought) for seven years and had 3 children. He was actually married to a wife in Texas....oopsy! At 24 I found myself alone with three children and still active LDS. Those events with my current husband came later.
Just go read my story again. Now I wonder if you ever did. You’ve talked to me for two years about Mormonism and I’ve posted my story TWICE and you still don’t understand. Oh well.
If the tithe is private, on the honor system, and between the person and God, then there is no need to even have a ‘tithing settlement’ with a third party.
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