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Hispanic outreach crucial to GOP [And the White House]
Politico.com ^ | May 1, 2007 | Ken Mehlman

Posted on 05/03/2007 3:01:49 PM PDT by Sleeping Beauty

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To: Polybius
Since agribusiness needs the illegal labor ...

Only 2% of illegal aliens... that is TWO PERCENT... work in agriculture.

41 posted on 05/03/2007 4:16:47 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Sleeping Beauty
Like I said, I don't want to argue the issue.

No. Apparently you don't want to respond because you can't support your contention. Big difference.

42 posted on 05/03/2007 4:17:59 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Sine_Pari
Being very close to the issue by blood, I can categorically say most Hispanics are anti-illegal immigration.

Thank you! More than half my living family is hispanic. They are disgusted with the state of things today, as are most good citizens.

43 posted on 05/03/2007 4:19:27 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Sleeping Beauty

I agree

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdlMWj0Lh9o


44 posted on 05/03/2007 4:21:55 PM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: South40
You know, where I live (San Diego) each and every morning 60,000 of my (white) neighbors get in their cars and drive to Mexico every day to go to work.

I live in San Diego also, and I notice more the tens of thousands of Mexicans that come over the border to work each day at jobs that used to belong to Americans. Go to any construction job; you'll be hard-pressed to find anyone white doing any job.

Well, we could put those 60,000 American electronic workers to work as construction laborers in the US.

Then, we can train the Mexican construction laborers to do electronic fabrication in Mexico -- inside of clean, air-conditioned factories -- so the whites don't collect those wages.

Then everyone will be really, really happy. (At least the Mexicans will.)

45 posted on 05/03/2007 4:25:43 PM PDT by Sleeping Beauty
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To: Sleeping Beauty

There are 600 year old Mexicans here?

THESE Mexicans are NOT AMERICANS. THIS is the U.S.A. and they have no claim to our land.

Are you a member of La Raza or something?


46 posted on 05/03/2007 4:26:09 PM PDT by Politicalmom (Conservatives want freedom. Republicans want power.)
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To: Politicalmom
There are 600 year old Mexicans here?

Honey, I don't know what you are referring to?

This thread is about Dan Mehlman suggesting that the GOP needs the support of Hispanic voters (who are traditionally conservative voters) in order to win the White House in 2008.

Dan Mehlman wrote this article. Not me. I don't even know if I agree with him.

47 posted on 05/03/2007 4:32:23 PM PDT by Sleeping Beauty
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To: Sleeping Beauty; b9; SoCalPol
You know, where I live (San Diego) each and every morning 60,000 of my (white) neighbors get in their cars and drive to Mexico every day to go to work.

From San Diego to where? Tijuana? I find that really hard to believe. Care to back it up?

48 posted on 05/03/2007 4:33:09 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Sleeping Beauty

If we compromise our sovereignty and our laws to win the Hispanic vote through favoritism, then no it is not worth it, it is pandering and can only lead to no good.

This pandering through favoritism toward Hispanics is already causing a great deal of resentment among citizens, and can only get worse if it continues.

He who has the most SPINE can win the next election. Americans respect integrity, and are craving it on this issue.

Yes, I said AMERICANS, i.e., U.S. citizens.


49 posted on 05/03/2007 4:38:15 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Lamb of God, you take away the sins of the world. Have mercy on us, and grant us Your peace.)
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To: Sleeping Beauty
“This thread is about Dan Mehlman suggesting that the GOP needs the support of Hispanic voters (who are traditionally conservative voters)”

Statistics seem to indicate that the majority of “Hispanic” voters are not conservative voters.

Pandering to ILLEGAL ALIENS won’t win the WH in 08.

50 posted on 05/03/2007 4:38:55 PM PDT by FredHunter08 (Guiliani! Come and Take Them!)
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To: South40

Just out of curiosity, what was the party affiliation of the president who twisted arms to get the necessary votes? And this was the same president who voted it into law?

Point is that this act and the affiliated party colored the voting behavior of minorities in this country.

Typically the immigrant population is very conservative but if the GOP seems hateful in its approach to immigration reform, the risk is the same.


51 posted on 05/03/2007 4:39:12 PM PDT by berstbubble
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To: Sleeping Beauty
Well, we could put those 60,000 American electronic workers to work as construction laborers in the US.

Forcing Americans to do a job they don't want or can not do is entirely impractical especially when the job is as physically demanding as construction labor.

Then, we can train the Mexican construction laborers to do electronic fabrication in Mexico -- inside of clean, air-conditioned factories -- so the whites don't collect those wages.

Who is "we"? Let the employer(s) train them. And the reason the manufacturers moved their factories to Mexico is so they could pay less than America's minimum wage; it's not a wage 'whites' or anyone living in America with our cost of living would want.

Then everyone will be really, really happy. (At least the Mexicans will.)

Many display the same cavalier attitude toward ILLEGAL aliens right up until they lose their job to one. It's how we have gotten in the dire situation we are in now. The fact is they’re no longer coming here to pick lettuce. They’re coming here to take every American job they can. That includes yours.

52 posted on 05/03/2007 4:39:21 PM PDT by South40 (Amnesty for ILLEGALS Is A Slap In The Face To The USBP!!)
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To: berstbubble
“Typically the immigrant population is very conservative but if the GOP seems hateful in its approach to immigration reform, the risk is the same.”

It is? Since when... and since when has respect for law and order been viewed as “hateful”?

These people march in our streets with their country’s flag and DEMAND of us. They have “brown berets” and organizations like La Raza. That’s “hateful”, if anything is. Any political party that panders to illegal aliens is not a party I care to support.

53 posted on 05/03/2007 4:41:58 PM PDT by FredHunter08 (Guiliani! Come and Take Them!)
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To: calcowgirl
From San Diego to where? Tijuana? I find that really hard to believe. Care to back it up?

Yeah...they're going to TJ every day to get in on the awesome wages paid at the maquiladoras.

54 posted on 05/03/2007 4:42:29 PM PDT by South40 (Amnesty for ILLEGALS Is A Slap In The Face To The USBP!!)
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To: Sleeping Beauty

Who is Dan Mehlman? At the top, it says that Ken Mehlman wrote the article...


55 posted on 05/03/2007 4:43:09 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Lamb of God, you take away the sins of the world. Have mercy on us, and grant us Your peace.)
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To: berstbubble
Kennedy was for it, Johnson was not, though he did sign it.

My point was it is widely misconstrued that the demomcRATs passed the CRA when they did not. It was passed by Republicans in spite of the fact that it was filibustered by dems Al Gore Sr. and Robert KKK Byrd.

56 posted on 05/03/2007 4:48:22 PM PDT by South40 (Amnesty for ILLEGALS Is A Slap In The Face To The USBP!!)
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To: Old Sarge

“WE ARE NOT A NATION OF IMMIGRANTS - WE ARE A NATION OF CITIZENS!!!

CITIZENS WHO ARE BEING THROWN UNDER THE BUS EACH AND EVERY DAY BY OUR ELECTED SO-CALLED “LEADERS”!!!”

Thank YOU, Sarge !!!!


57 posted on 05/03/2007 4:49:13 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! Or Rudy/Hillary if you want to murder conservatism)
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To: livius

Who is it that “hates” Hispanics? Let’s clear that up.

The truth is, that here in California, the Mexican/Salvadoran/Guatemalan/Honduran illegals are the most noticeable and prominent population explosion. No doubt, there are illegals from other countries, and that includes the Chinese, some of whom tried to sneak in via cargo ships. But you cannot deny that the easiest migration/invasion route is from south of our border and that masses have come in this way. And you cannot deny that they fill our hospital emergency rooms and delivery rooms... anchor babies.

I work in hospitals in L.A. and do not see Chinese in our ERs. I do see many Chinese here on student visas, filling the universities and as resident aliens, working in the hospitals.

However, the prevalence of the Spanish language is the giveaway here. You won’t like me saying this, but the Hispanic illegals are given preference over all others. We are fast becoming a bi-cultural and bilingual state. You do not see Chinese, Korean, Vietnamese, etc., languages as available as Spanish.

Where can you call, in this day and age, and not have to “press 1 for English,” with Spanish being the other language that is accommodated. We are beginning to see billboards entirely in Spanish, ads on and in public buses, etcetera. Western Union now has convenient locations within our supermarkets for them to wire money to Latin America.

If we point all of this out, in addition to being aggravated by some of their “cultural” habits, are we “hating” or are we just being honest and un-PC...?


58 posted on 05/03/2007 4:56:52 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Lamb of God, you take away the sins of the world. Have mercy on us, and grant us Your peace.)
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To: FredHunter08

The “no holds barred”, draconian “reform” that some people are talking about means splitting up families and destroying the lives of many people whose only crime was coming here outside the process. The majority of illegal aliens in this country are otherwise law abiding and productive.

The borders have to be protected against enemies and more numbers then we can sustain but the idea of hunting down those who are here now, except felons, is unduly hurtful and unnecessary.

Given the grevious economic conditions and lack of opportunity in Mexico, a young father would be evil to allow a shallow river and paperwork keep him from feeding his family.


59 posted on 05/03/2007 4:57:31 PM PDT by berstbubble
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To: berstbubble

You certainly have all the ACLU/NGO talking points down pat.

Say, you wouldn’t be a retread or sleeper account of Dane, would you?


60 posted on 05/03/2007 5:01:39 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Lamb of God, you take away the sins of the world. Have mercy on us, and grant us Your peace.)
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