Why You Should Care About Parker v. District of Columbia

Townhall.com ^ | May 1, 2007 | Sandy Froman

[Dead Corpse]

It was showing what you idiotic courts are up to absent legitimate authority. This is what happens when you leave protections of your Rights up to government. Local, or Federal.

Don't be a retard.

[Dead Corpse]

Art 6 para 2. "Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding".

Shall not be infringed.

It isn't rocket surgery...

[Mojave]

It was showing what you idiotic courts are up to absent legitimate authority.

It didn't "show" anything, except that you and Sarah Brady (your "source") hate the NRA. The court refuted your Sarah Brady nonsense.

[Mojave]

Laws of any State to the Contrary

State regulations don't violate restrictions on federal powers.

Read a large print book.

[looscnnn]

It also applies to not violating people’s rights, thus they are not allowed to violate the 2nd.

[Mojave]

It also applies to not violating people’s rights

Through federal action. It's a federal constitution, not a state constitution.

Your dream of nationalized, centralized power isn't yet complete.

[looscnnn]

Again, there is no power being granted so your statements are incorrect. I have never been for centralized powers.

[Mojave]

Again, there is no power being granted so your statements are incorrect.

The federal Constitution was a grant of power from the states to the federal government. The Bill of Rights were declaratory restrictions on the powers delegated.

Read a book.

[Dead Corpse]

State regulations don't violate restrictions on federal powers.

Shall not be infringed, the Laws of any State to the contrary notwithstanding.

Read a book. Any book. For you, possibly one with lots of primary colored photos...

[Dead Corpse]

The court refuted your Sarah Brady nonsense.

You really are delusional. I have been unequivocally stating for the last 9 years on this forum that Shall not be infringed means infringed by ANYONE, and you insist on sitting there equating my stance with Sarah Brady?

That meets the legal definition of slander Roscoe...

[looscnnn]

Let me ask this, what powers are being granted what powers are being restricted in the second? Here is a clue the states didn't grant anything to the federal government, a majority of the states had to approve (not grant, they were not holding the power and then saying go ahead and take it) the powers and restrictions that were defined (again not granted) of what the federal government could do and how it was to be set up. Have the states given up some of their powers in the years since, yes (quite often by the threat of loss of federal $). Is that a good thing, no.

[looscnnn]

Let me ask you this, do you support the McCarthy/Dingell bill (H.R. 297)? The bill that would provide money to the states to “provide the National Instant Criminal Background Check System [NICS] with all records concerning persons who are prohibited from possessing or receiving a firearm... regardless of the elapsed time since the disqualifying event.”?

[tpaine]

The federal Constitution was a grant of power from the states to the federal government. The Bill of Rights were declaratory restrictions on the powers delegated. Read a book.

Poor Roscoe, unable to read the US Constitution, or to reply to the following:

The federal Constitution is a document outlining powers granted from We the People to the federal, state and local governments. The Constitution and Bill of Rights are declaratory restrictions on the powers delegated to the federal government, or prohibited by it to the States.
Read the 10th.

[Mojave]

Here is a clue the states didn't grant anything to the federal government

When did a lie become a clue?

[looscnnn]

Lie huh? Tell me where they granted the federal government anything?

[Mojave]

Was it merely ignorance rather than dishonesty? The Constitution became law upon ratification by the states.

Read a book.

[looscnnn]

Grant and ratify are two different things:

ratify - affirm, accredit, approve, authenticate, authorize, bear out, bind, bless, certify, commission, confirm, consent, corroborate, endorse, establish, go for*, license, ok, rubber stamp*, sanction, sign, substantiate, uphold, validate

1. to confirm by expressing consent, approval, or formal sanction: to ratify a constitutional amendment.
2. to confirm (something done or arranged by an agent or by representatives) by such action.

grant - allowance, admission, allocation, allotment, alms, appropriation, assistance, award, benefaction, bequest, boon, bounty, charity, concession, contribution, dole, donation, endowment, gift, gifting, gratuity, handout, lump, present, privilege, reward, stipend, subsidy

1. to bestow or confer, esp. by a formal act: to grant a charter.
2. to give or accord: to grant permission.
3. to agree or accede to: to grant a request.
4. to admit or concede; accept for the sake of argument: I grant that point.
5. to transfer or convey, esp. by deed or writing: to grant property.

Again, the states did not grant any powers to the fed gov.

[tacticalogic]

The Constitution and Bill of Rights are declaratory restrictions on the powers delegated to the federal government, or prohibited by it to the States.

I think the BOR is more clarification than restriction. Many of the Founders considerd the BOR unnecessary and redundant, not placing any restrictions on the federal government that weren't already implicit in the Constitution proper.

[Mojave]

ratify - affirm, accredit, approve, authenticate, authorize

Thanks for shooting yourself in the foot.