Posted on 05/01/2007 3:08:56 PM PDT by Politicalmom
An unborn child is a creation of God. It has a soul and is a human being.
What you are missing is that the Preamble is not law. It is a statement of purpose.
God’s law on the other hand is inviolate. The unborn that are alive should never be aborted under God’s law.
The Founders tried to frame an arrangement for the expression of religion in the First Amendment.
If you want to persue a right to life under the Constitution, then abandon the approach using the Preamble and use the First Amendment.
The First Amendment approach would work something like this:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
If we are devoted to life by our right to freely express our religion, then we should be able to raise our sons and daughters with the understanding that abortion is a crime against God and life. Our religious belief in the prohibition of abortion should be predominant over all other claims. Schools and agents of government should have no authority to instruct our children against our religious values.
Once this approach is accepted, it becomes a matter of religious value and there can be no state law to legalize abortion as it it would be inconsistently applicable to the population as a whole.
Try that approach and you will get further.
In the meantime understand that Fred Thompson’s view on abortion is a federalist one.
“States don’t have the right to legalize murder.”
I don’t like abortion either. It may seem clear cut, but when addressed in an honest open discussion it brings up other issues. However, let me reinerate the thoughts of Constitutional scholars...this is a state’s rights issue.
That was the Articles of Confederation that tied the United States together before the Constitution was adopted.
The Confederacy is not associated with the Articles of Confederation.
The Confederacy was borne from the secession of states that led to the Civil War.
I think you and I are done as it is obvious you have a terrible understanding of history and law. No need for me to respond any further to your posts as everyone can see by now that your arguments are misguided.
Then the Fifth and the Fourteenth Amendments apply. Even NARAL knows this.
No state has the right to alienate the rights to life, liberty and private property. They are God-given, not bestowed by men.
Why does Fred Thompson oppose a Human Life Amendment? Do you oppose it?
The Preamble is not only an integral part of the Constititon, it is its cornerstone.
A 41k JPG is a ‘slow graphic?’ You’re really showing your age, Pet. 28.8 modems went out of style a long time ago.
Your First Amendment argument doesn’t make sense to me. Personally, I can’t even detect an emanation or penumbra in the First Amendment that applies to this topic.
And you’re showing your ignorance. Transmission time is only part of the formula. Another key factort is lag time.
Geocities? LOL
“Factort” should be “factor.”
The Preamble is not only an integral part of the Constitution, it is its cornerstone. The Fifth Amendment is its heart.
Still at it? I thought we settled this. :-)
Pre-Roe, all states were prohibited by the U.S. Constitution from violating the right to life.
During Roe, the Supreme Court unconstitutionally forced states to allow abortion.
After Roe is overturned, order will be restored, and the Constitution will again prohibit the states from taking life, just as it did prior to Roe.
If any state at that point wishes to reinstate abortion, it will have to secede from the union, since abortion contradicts the purpose of the union, as stated in the Preamble.
This is federalism. The Constitution is supreme. It binds both the states and the national government they agreed to, for the purpose of securing liberty and justice to to ourselves and our posterity.
Pretty simple to understand, really.
Thanks for the backup. :-)
My pleasure. Your arguments are brilliant, and correct.
“No state has the right to alienate the rights to life, liberty and private property. They are God-given, not bestowed by men.”
I applaud your passion. I am quite sure that you are informed on all aspects of the issue. Let me reinerate, the law experts state that this a multi-faceted issue that should be discussed and resolved within the states, not at the Federal level.
Thank you for putting your finger on the exact problem.
Ya, I know your right, I’m just having a hard time with Hannity. At times he acts like
a real boot licker, at other times he’s the “pit bull” we’ve all come to love.
Just a little rant there.......=)
Bravo!
No. Prior to Roe, states were permitted to ban abortion or legalize abortion on demand.
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