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GONZALES WANTS ARBITRARY POWER TO BLOCK GUN PURCHASES; SAF SAYS HE SHOULD RESIGN
Second Amendment Foundation (email alert) ^ | 5/1/07 | Alan Gottlieb

Posted on 05/01/2007 12:47:00 PM PDT by Carry_Okie

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To: Carry_Okie

Read this Hellish article tonight BUMP!


421 posted on 05/04/2007 10:38:47 AM PDT by Pagey (Horrible Hillary Clinton is Bad For America, Bad For Business and Bad For MY Stomach!)
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To: AuntB; potlatch; PhilDragoo; ntnychik; MeekOneGOP; dixiechick2000

Gonzales has publicly admitted that he has illegal alien relatives living and working in the USA

He said he was not aware if they are working here legally

Gonzales, the DOJ, the WH agenda on deliberately ignoring “certain” crimes all wrapped in nicely

- Myself - I’d say many Americans may start using the illegal alien’s very sucessful methods of ignoring the IRS

Selective enforcement or prosecution of the Constitution and federal criminal and civil statutes does seem to be in direct violation of a certain Amendment.......


422 posted on 05/04/2007 2:39:08 PM PDT by devolve ( -25%_the_little_fury_with_the_fringe_on_top_)
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To: devolve

Bump!


423 posted on 05/04/2007 2:51:02 PM PDT by potlatch (Forgiveness is the fragrance the violet sheds on the heel that has crushed it. M.Twain)
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To: potlatch; PhilDragoo; ntnychik; MeekOneGOP; dixiechick2000

If (D-CT) Zoie Baird was bounced as Slick Willie’s first choice for his Attorney General because she knowingly employed illegal aliens

Then (D-NY) Kimba Wood because she knowingly employed illegal aliens

Then #3 was the charmer: (D-FL) Janet Waco

Funny part is (R-wherever!) Linda Chavez had criticized Zoie Baird - yet she was bounced from consideration in President George W Bush’s cabinet for having “an illegal alien *houseguest!”

*(Ho!-Ho!-Ho!)

Why should (D-then-R-TX) Aberto Gonzales ever have been nominated for Bush’s AG and then approved by Congress?


424 posted on 05/04/2007 3:57:06 PM PDT by devolve ( -25%_the_little_fury_with_the_fringe_on_top_)
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To: 4woodenboats
You have not provided concrete evidence that Bush had previous knowledge that Gonzales was going to "support legislation that would allow him and future attorneys general the arbitrary power to block firearms purchases without due process".

So you are implying or suggesting Bush had no idea about who he was appointing as Attorney General of the United States?

I noted you declined comment to the above.

425 posted on 05/04/2007 6:01:31 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: GrandEagle

Probably another d*mn ‘diversity’ candidate with BS for brains.


426 posted on 05/04/2007 7:04:32 PM PDT by enviros_kill
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To: Jim Robinson

“Yet another betrayal!”

This is starting to look like real problems.

When he flipped Rumsfeld to appease the dems, I thought he was going into a self destructive tantrum.

Some of us, stuck by Alberto because we did not want the dems to be able to claim another victory.

What the heck is going on?


427 posted on 05/04/2007 8:27:26 PM PDT by PaRepub07
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To: devolve; potlatch; ntnychik; MeekOneGOP; Grampa Dave
Gonzales and U.S. Attorney Johnny Sutton won't prosecute in the Texas Youth Commission scandal which serially sexually abused said youths.

Berger the felon does no time--but the Border Patrol does a dime.

Grassley holds Gonzales by a thread.

428 posted on 05/04/2007 8:35:35 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: All

From the NRA on the matter:

The New York Times praises it as anti-terrorism legislation, but what they’re not telling you is that Senator Frank Lautenberg’s bill would strip away the fundamental American right of due process... not to mention the Second Amendment.

I’ll be very clear-Frank Lautenberg’s proposal is un-American. There’s no other way to put it.

His legislation would give the Justice Department the full power to put anyone they “suspect” of being involved in terrorism on a secret watch list and deny them the right to purchase a firearm.

Don’t get me wrong. I do NOT want terrorists to be able to buy a firearm, and neither do the millions of members of the NRA. I don’t even want terrorists walking around on our streets.

But the Lautenberg bill isn’t about terrorists-it’s about “suspects.” And a secret government list.

Lautenberg is the New Jersey senator who’s voted for virtually every gun ban, ammunition ban, and registration scheme that’s ever been proposed. He ought to just admit the very real impact of his legislation: It would give the Justice Department the authority to put the name of every law abiding American citizen who owns a firearm on a permanent, secret government list.

In one sweeping legislative act, our Second Amendment freedom could be gutted.

Not to mention the basic right of due process. If they declare you a “suspect,” your rights are gone. With no rights at all-just because some government bureaucrat calls you a “suspect” -the attorney general can deny you a firearm, a Right-to-Carry permit or an FFL license.

Just imagine if that attorney general were Janet Reno, or Dianne Feinstein, or Chuck Schumer! American gun owners chosen by whim or at random would have no rights at all!

I agree that we need to be tough on terrorists. But if someone is suspected of terrorist activity-don’t just put him on a list. Investigate, arrest and prosecute them. Kick them out of our country.

But we cannot tear up our rights under the Constitution in the name of fighting terrorism. We gain nothing by destroying the precious freedoms that separate us from the rest of the world

link: http://www.nranews.com/blogarticle.aspx?blogPostId=212


429 posted on 05/04/2007 9:37:47 PM PDT by PaRepub07
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To: PaRepub07

NRA Bump


431 posted on 05/05/2007 11:23:00 AM PDT by EdReform (The right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed *NRA*JPFO*SAF *GOA*SAS)
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To: Carry_Okie

“this legislation would give the Attorney General discretionary authority to deny the purchase of a firearm or the issuance of a firearm license or permit because of some vague suspicion that an American citizen may be up to no good.”

Sign it, Mr. President, because the Supreme Court will overturn it, it’s obviously unconstitutional. You know, just like they overturned McCain-Feingold!

/bitter sarcasm


432 posted on 05/05/2007 11:52:13 AM PDT by LibertarianInExile (If ‘He can win,’ is your first defense, obviously, that’s his one plus--not his conservatism.)
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To: RWR8189

“Like Roberts and Alito?”

Let’s see what they do in United States v. Santos (06-1005), which will interpret the money laundering statute, first. If they are really constitutionalists, they’ll toss the whole damn statute as federal action out of bounds with a limited federal government. If not, well, we know they’re both business-as-usual, uberfederalist, ‘conservative’ appointees like Rehnquist was.

And they still don’t seem to have ruled on anything brightline ‘constitutional or not,’ which isn’t a surprise, since their docket load has dropped like a rock, notwithstanding some amazing disparity of law in federal circuit decisions. A conservative CJOTSC would entertain appeals bent on at least making the Constitution clear, and he sets the agenda for cert. Seems to me the ‘conservative’ CJOTSC’s agenda is awful light so far.


433 posted on 05/05/2007 12:02:34 PM PDT by LibertarianInExile (If ‘He can win,’ is your first defense, obviously, that’s his one plus--not his conservatism.)
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To: corlorde; archy; HiJinx; B4Ranch
I'm honored to be here with the Eternal General of the United States, mi amigo, Alberto Gonzales. --Whitehouse podcast from yesterday. Hat tip languagelog blog.
434 posted on 05/05/2007 1:15:21 PM PDT by James W. Fannin
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To: Carry_Okie

Does anyone in the government know “We the People” anymore?


435 posted on 05/05/2007 9:18:05 PM PDT by freekitty
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To: freekitty

Kitty, the problem is with the people themselves. They have forgotten, so they continue to elect thes kinds of politicians. Immigration has not helped.


436 posted on 05/06/2007 10:05:49 AM PDT by James W. Fannin
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To: GladesGuru
“Gonzales seems to have never learned that any law should be looked as if it were being enforced by the worst of people”

Should be said again.
The government should *NEVER* have any more power that we would want it to have with the worst possible POTUS and a completely Democratic Senate, House and SCOTUS. That’s why I didn’t like the Patriot act.

437 posted on 05/06/2007 10:13:16 AM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, Deport all illegals, abolish the IRS, ATF and DEA)
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To: James W. Fannin

I thank you for the comment and I believe you.


438 posted on 05/06/2007 10:30:19 AM PDT by freekitty
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To: samm1148
“They’ll start by securing the NRA’s membership rolls.”

If I was working for POTUS Hitlery I’ go for the lists of everyone who’s bought gun safes:-(

439 posted on 05/06/2007 10:58:33 AM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, Deport all illegals, abolish the IRS, ATF and DEA)
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To: PaRepub07
To say nothing of looking stupid to Democrat co workers and family. Geeze, I support the guy and now I look like the kind of easily fooled idiot that I guess I am.
Curses upon you Mr. Gonzales, rot in hell with Stalin and Pol Pot.
440 posted on 05/06/2007 11:01:11 AM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, Deport all illegals, abolish the IRS, ATF and DEA)
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