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Detention Without Physical Examination of -All- Vegetable Protein Products From China...
US Food and Drug Administration ^ | Tuesday May 1, 2007 | Milwaukee_Guy

Posted on 05/01/2007 9:52:09 AM PDT by Milwaukee_Guy

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To: ApplegateRanch

It reminds me of the “Made in USA of foreign made material” tag you see on a lot of clothing. Ridiculous. Whatever happened to the United States being able to sustain itself with its own products?


121 posted on 05/01/2007 12:13:42 PM PDT by CT102ndInfSister (Thank GOD the 102nd is home from Afghanistan)
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To: PAR35
You might want to check back with your boss before you continue this line of spin.

This isn't spin. It's how I read the announcement. I provided the announcement in my reply to you. If you see it differently, fine. I don't.

122 posted on 05/01/2007 12:14:32 PM PDT by bcsco
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To: LikeLight

I’ve had that crap, too - and I do use the word “crap” advisedly. Good saltwater white fish has been incresingly expensive and hard to find, however. The world’s factory fishing fleets are quickly vacuuming up whatever’s in the oceans, and the size and catches of fish like halibut, haddock and cod are not even close to what they once were. It’s a shame, but as big as the oceans are they can’t provide fish for everyone who would like to have some.


123 posted on 05/01/2007 12:15:29 PM PDT by -YYZ-
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To: keeper53
I guess we go organic and locally grown as much as possible?!

Or we realize and accept that life has risk, and we live our lives.

124 posted on 05/01/2007 12:15:44 PM PDT by xjcsa (xjcsa...source of number one Google result in search for the word "ecotard" [pleased with self])
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To: CT102ndInfSister
Whatever happened to the United States being able to sustain itself with its own products?

Unions, taxes and regulations...

125 posted on 05/01/2007 12:15:54 PM PDT by null and void (The truth. It is a beautiful and terrible thing, and should therefore be treated with great caution.)
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To: Pride in the USA; Stillwaters
PING...

IA #99-29, 4/27/07, IMPORT ALERT #99-29, "DETENTION WITHOUT PHYSICAL EXAMINATION OF ALL VEGETABLE PROTEIN PRODUCTS FROM CHINA FOR ANIMAL OR HUMAN FOOD USE DUE TO THE PRESENCE OF MELAMINE AND/OR MELAMINE ANALOGS"

-Massive- Federal intervention of all Chinese food imports.

FDA finally recognizes widespread pet deaths and threat to human food supply. Massive misrepresentation of Chinese vegetable imprts to US authorities.

FDA confirmation of 1950 deaths of cats and 2200 deaths of dogs.

126 posted on 05/01/2007 12:20:49 PM PDT by lonevoice (It's always "Apologize to a Muslim Hour"...somewhere)
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To: LikeLight

Thanks for the tip, I’ve always wondered if it was any good or not. :)


127 posted on 05/01/2007 12:21:59 PM PDT by EX52D (Proud to have served our country...)
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To: CT102ndInfSister
Whatever happened to the United States being able to sustain itself with its own products?

Under Globalization, we "advanced" to being a Service Economy.

I think that means, "I'll flip your Argentine beef burgers on my Japanese grill, in return for you using Mexican shingles, a Thai hammer, and Chinese nails to fix my roof, while the government "services" us April 15th."

128 posted on 05/01/2007 12:26:06 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Islam: a Satanically Transmitted Disease, spread by unprotected intimate contact with the Koranus.)
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To: bcsco

Please stay. I’m looking for the truth, no agenda.


129 posted on 05/01/2007 12:29:32 PM PDT by ncpatriot
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To: DManA
From Iams' own website:

P&G Pet Care Statement
April 20, 2007

UPDATE ON NEW DEVELOPMENTS IN THE PET FOOD RECALL

* Iams and Eukanuba pet foods are not affected by the recent pet food product recalls by Natural Balance, Blue Buffalo, or Royal Canin.

* Iams and Eukanuba pet foods currently being sold in retail stores are not formulated with any processed vegetable proteins including wheat gluten, corn gluten, or rice protein concentrate. You can be assured that these products do not contain any processed vegetable proteins from China that are the focus of this recall investigation.

* Iams and Eukanuba pet foods contain predominantly animal-based proteins from chicken, lamb, fish, and eggs. Historically, this has always been one of the key nutritional pillars that made Iams and Eukanuba high-quality, premium pet food brands. Vegetable based proteins are not a primary source of protein in our pet foods.

* Iams and Eukanuba dry pet foods do not contain melamine and are made in P&G Pet Care plants (not Menu Foods). You should feel safe and confident in feeding all Iams and Eukanuba dry foods, which are not manufactured by Menu Foods and are not part of this recall.

* You should feel secure feeding Iams and Eukanuba products. Only a small portion of our wet food products were affected by the Menu Foods recall, and these products have already been removed from retail store shelves in the U.S. and Canada.

130 posted on 05/01/2007 12:35:35 PM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: snowsislander
In recent weeks, there has been an outbreak of cat and dog deaths

This has been happening for MONTHS!! Someone is asleep at the wheel.

131 posted on 05/01/2007 12:36:02 PM PDT by aimhigh
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To: Joan Kerrey

I’m calling the companies and asking them if they import any ingredients. Then I ask for them to email their spec sheets to me...

The other thing I’m doing is Googling the name of the company, in quotes, and the words “china” and “imports” separately.

You’d be amazed what shows up. It’s frustrating work, but it pays off!


132 posted on 05/01/2007 12:38:27 PM PDT by dandelion
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To: DManA
Iams WET Foods apparently ARE affected.

Menu Foods Recall Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ’s) April 27, 2007

133 posted on 05/01/2007 12:38:49 PM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
Thank you. We use the kibbles.
134 posted on 05/01/2007 12:40:24 PM PDT by DManA
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To: poobear

On the subject of Autism, I do find it interesting that one of the treatments is to do a gluten free diet. And people have said it helps.

Does anyone know if Gerber uses any of these in their products? Or how to even find that out. going to look at the box now.

PRODUCTS: Wheat Gluten
Rice Gluten
Rice Protein
Rice Protein Concentrate
Corn Gluten
Corn Gluten Meal
Corn By-Products
Soy Protein
Soy Gluten
Proteins (includes amino acids and protein hydrosylates)
Mung Bean Protein


135 posted on 05/01/2007 12:44:57 PM PDT by CJ Wolf
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To: PAR35

Okay, who’s engaging in Clintonesque parsing here, when you’re listing as separate products what are two serving sizes of the same product, and listing a number of products twice? If you’re going to ding someone for it you should avoid doing it yourself. Here’s the list revised:

Science Diet Feline Cuts Kitten Ocean Fish Dinner in Sauce 3oz
Science Diet Feline Cuts Kitten Ocean Fish Dinner in Sauce 5.5oz

Science Diet Feline Cuts Adult Ocean Fish Dinner in Sauce 5.5oz
Science Diet Feline Cuts Adult Beef Dinner in Gravy 5.5oz
Science Diet Feline Cuts Adult Chicken Dinner in Gravy 5.5oz
Science Diet Feline Cuts Mature Adult 7+ Chicken Dinner in Gravy 5.5oz
Science Diet Feline Savory Cuts Can Sliced Beef/Gravy 3oz
Science Diet Feline Savory Cuts Can Sliced Oceanfish/Sauce 3oz
Science Diet Feline Savory Cuts Can Sliced Chicken/Grvy 3oz
Science Diet Feline Savory Cuts Can Sliced Senior Chicken/Gravy 3oz


136 posted on 05/01/2007 12:50:39 PM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: keeper53
>Massive human death toll coming soon
>>Are you serious? [more like R. U. Sirius . . .]

I think folks here are.
The bodies will be buried
next to the bodies

from all the people
who died of SARS, right next door
to the vast wasteland

where folks used to live
before the Y2K bug
crushed the modern world . . .

137 posted on 05/01/2007 12:57:05 PM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: ncpatriot
Please stay. I’m looking for the truth, no agenda.

I can only give you the information Science Diet has provided me.

On March 21st, Science Diet announced their voluntary participation in Menu Food's nationwide recall. This was for product named Science Diet Savory Cuts (can), which included 12 various items manufactured for Science Diet by Menu Foods. These were the ONLY products produced by Menu foods for Hills Pet Nutrition. The copy of the recall statement I have does not address whether the product did in fact contain contaminated wheat gluten. It voluntarily recalled the product since the product was manufactured by Menu Foods.

On March 30th, Hills also announced the voluntary recall of Prescription Diet m/d Feline (dry). This recall staes: This is the only product Hill's currently sells in the United States and Canada that contains wheat gluten from any supplier". And: "Hill's is taking this recautionary action because during a two-month period in early 2007, wheat gluten for this product was provided by a company that also supplied wheat gluten to Menu foods".

All other products marketed by Hill's Science Diet, either at the time or at present, are free of wheat gluten.

Regarding the issue of rice protein concentrate: On April 17, the FDA announced a further recall for product containing rice protein concentrate associated with melamine contaminate. While Hill's uses rice protein concentrate in 4 products, none of the concentrate is from this supplier, and all products have tested free of contamination.

On April 19, Royal Canin issued a press release announcing a recall of product due to corn gluten contaminated with melamine, that was sourced to China. Science Diet came out with an announcement that all corn gluten used in Science Diet products comes from American corn suppliers. Science Diet has not been involved in any further recalls. One may visit Search for Pet Food Recalls for current recall information, including the information I have posted above. It's the source I most often use.

With the exception of the above date of March 21st (I'd put it as March 27th, as that was the date of the notification to me), all this was posted on a previous thread by me, last week. I also noted at the time that I am a retired individual who acts as a Science Diet demo rep on weekends. I am not a veterinarian, nor a chemist, nor one educated in animal husbandry. I did take a battery of exams in order to perform my duties, but am a low-level individual when it comes to the issue. I do believe in the product, however, having fed it to my pets for many years.

138 posted on 05/01/2007 12:57:20 PM PDT by bcsco
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To: Milwaukee_Guy

This is the future the globalists have chosen for us in the quest for maximum profit otherwise known as cheap labor.


139 posted on 05/01/2007 12:58:15 PM PDT by winodog (We are being set up for bubba and the beast, part two.)
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To: poobear

I think you may really be onto something with the possible autism connection. Melamine can cause elevated ammonia levels in the body. Elevated ammonia levels are common in autistic children. Gluten or casein-free diets are often used in treating autism. Melamine is used as a gluten additive. A recent study found that autism is not linked to celiac disease, which is a gluten allergy — which means that if autism is indeed linked to gluten products and is sometimes helped by a gluten-free diet, then it might be linked to an additive in the gluten instead — like melamine.

Freepers — please check this out further! I’m no doctor, but if you’re a doctor, then tell me what you think. If you know a doctor, then ask one — we need to push this and find out!


140 posted on 05/01/2007 1:08:29 PM PDT by eri atlov
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