Posted on 04/29/2007 4:37:28 PM PDT by Stoat
Cool. Couple this guy with Nifong and you’ve got a duo I can buy into.
THANK YOU very much for your research! It's sincerely appreciated.
I'm getting the sense that the main reasons why Sheriff Arpaio's methods are not implemented elsewhere are:
Sound reasonable to you?
Probably by pointing out that the conditions endured by the inmates are not that different than what this nations service members are enduring in the litter box of Iraq & that porn is detrimental to the maintenance of good order in the jail as it is fought over ,coffee has zero nutritional value same for tobacco .
The food is not rotting just past its freshest sell by date & is still therefore fit to eat.
Inmates are not physically abused are rewarded with simple work details outside the jail & are connected by leg irons to three other prisoners to prevent attempted escape & the required use of deadly force to keep said inmate in custody as is required by law.
Yeah, the reasons you stated sound about right. ...especially the second one. It takes LEOs of unusual fortitude not to give a rip about the pressure applied by the ACLU and other leftist pressure groups, and unfortunately there just aren't many Sheriff Joe types around anymore.
I don’t think much of Joe Arpaio.
Joe is a showman who has achieved popularity riding the public sentiment that the justice system in general isn’t harsh enough on criminals, while his tent city demonstrably is - as he would be happy to show anyone who will look.
Where it breaks down is that his tent city isn’t a prison for dangerous felons and repeat offenders, it’s a jail with an inmate population that’s either been convicted of misdemeanors or else is awaiting trial and not yet convicted of anything. These aren’t the people I have in mind when I think criminals aren’t punished harshly enough.
With lawmakers continuously working to make everything from using plastic shopping bags to serving trans fats to eating a ham sandwich around Muslims illegal, you or I could end up in a jail a lot more easily than most people would like to believe. When that happens, I’d prefer the place be run in a civilized fashion with as few sadistic showmen around as possible.
Very true. Also, I think a tough prison regime is, in the long run, better for the prisoners as well. I wonder how many graduates of Sherrif Arpaio’s jail never return to crime?
You’re so right- a few years in chokey means that induviduals cannot commit more crimes during their time inside.
One of my mates is a copper and most of them are as frustrated as the public when, after arresting them and sending the file to the CPS (like your DA),some stupid old liberal lefty judge lets them go because their parents split up when they were 4 yrs old.
Thanks to this namby pamby approach I felt safer on the Streets of New York at night than Nottingham or Sheffield,when I was over there a couple of years ago.
Tell your local Congressman that you would like to see that Sherriff’s regime in you neighbourhood because you don’t want it to end up like a British city.
Thirty years I ago I had the pleasure of being stationed in the UK for 3 1/2 years. I enjoyed every minute but there were two things I noticed about the UK from the start. First, was how civil everyone was; very well mannered and polite. The other was how safe I felt in the country. If what you say is true a lot has changed in the past 3 decades.
This cannot possibly be accurate. Rotting food?
“I’m sorry to hear that, but according to the Sun Says blurb, Sheriff Joe’s approval rates typically exceed 80%. This suggests to me that the New Times has poorer circulation than a dead tree, and that the people of Arizona are far smarter and better informed than the New Times’ staff.
“The New Times sounds like the ‘crazy Aunt who lives in the attic’ that makes a lot of noise but is mainly overlooked by the saner folks in the vicinity :-)”
From what I can tell, the NEW TIMES has pretty massive circulation, actually. That 80% comes from the kind of people who are willing to participate in polls in the first place; from what I know of the typical New Times reader, their response to a phone call asking whether they’d like to answer a few survey questions is to say “No, thanks” and hang up. And of course, those people don’t vote, either, since they’re of the skeptical type who figure the game is rigged anyway - so Joe always makes it back into office by a massive margin.
I'm guessing that Sheriff Arpaio would be delighted to have you on board and the citizens of the great State of Arizona would be Blessed to have you doing such vital work there.
Full steam ahead :-)
This cannot possibly be accurate. Rotting food?
We've talked about this earlier on in the thread and I think that most of us have come to the conclusion that this is a case of The Sun being just a tad hyperbolic, as is their occasional custom.
The food is so inexpensive because it's past it's "sell by" date, but that doesn't mean that it's unhealthy or 'rotting'.. The young reporter that wrote this story is accustomed to the swanky nightclubs of London, and so bologna sandwiches that are just beyond the sell-by date are probably far beyond anything he's experienced, and so he vents in a bit of an 'over the top' fashion in the story.
Sheriff Arpaio wouldn't feed inmates rotting food that would make them sick....he is a good man who follows the law and that would be clear abuse and mistreatment of the prisoners.
Tabloid papers tend to get a bit emotional sometimes :-)
Perhaps its just me but good manners seem to have gone out of the window (a lot of it may be bad parenting).
I should stress that I was talking about our cities. I am fortunate enough to live in a village where there aren’t these problems.
To make a comparison Brownsville area of NYC is probably like a zoo but somewhere like Poughkeepsie is a nice community.
You are probably right.
So what if it’s ‘rotting’ and ‘vile’. It’s a prison, not a hotel. No frills, no privilages, no porn, no fancy diets. Way to go Sheriff!
Although I sincerely doubt that the food is actually 'rotting' as stated in the article (post # 33 here) I agree of course. Such basic principles as the notion of prison being for punishment and as being a place to remind criminals that they don't want to commit crimes both appear to have been forgotten, or if not forgotten they have been expunged from the lexicon by the ACLU here in the USA and other groups like them.
(your screen name certainly supports Sheriff Arpaio's vision as well! Bravo!)
Thank you Stoat! I live in Europe, and someone with the vision of Sheriff Joe is badly needed here. I think private prisons are only being discussed here at the moment, but prisoners have a very pampered existence at the moment. I assume Sheriff J’s establishments are private?
Yeah, that struck me too...”a vile diet of rotting food...” that would obviously be illegal....and that kind of overdramatization coming from the BRITS, is no accident,since that’s they way they generally think of their own fresh food.
Yeah, that struck me too...”a vile diet of rotting food...” that would obviously be illegal....and that kind of overdramatization coming from the BRITS, is no accident,since that’s they way they generally think of their own fresh food.
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