Student pleaded with Tech: Allow guns

The Roanoke Times ^ | Friday, April 20, 2007 | Bradford Wiles

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This guy was Moslem?

Oh yes.

And heavens, was he the “right” group from that Yugoslavian area?

If by *right* you mean the ones funded by the same Wahabbiist sources who've financed Al Qaeda operations and provided them personnel, and have exploited their connections to both the Clinton and Bush administrations and other US presidential candidates, yes.

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The only 1 I can think of was that professor the other year who got a gun out of his car and went and shot the guy (I think). It was in the South but can’t recall exactly where.

Pearl, Mississippi. The news report of murderer Luke Woodham's conviction did not even mention that the attack had been halted when Assistant Principal Joel Myrick retrieved his .45-caliber automatic pistol he kept in his truck in the school parking lot, chased Woodham down outside the school and held him at bay with a .45-caliber automatic pistol, forcing 16-year-old Woodham to the ground with his foot on the youth's neck.

Myrick is now the Principal at Hancock Co High School.

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Good luck convincing liberals to see the 2nd Amendment the way every one else does.

Cut the ears of the first couple hundred to get in the way and the rest will decide it's better for them to jump on the bandwagon.

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Anybody else able to help here?

Austin, Texas, University of Texas, August 1, 1966, when Charles Whitman killed 15 people and wounded 31 others before he was shot dead by Austin police and a civilian volunteer. (Some accounts allege 16 or 17 victims, citing a later suicide stemming from the attacks, and a pregnant woman who subsequently miscarried; additionally on November 12, 2001, David Gunby died of long-term kidney complications from a wound he received while on the South Mall. He had been born with only one functioning kidney, which was nearly destroyed by Whitman's shot. After the prospect of losing his eyesight, he refused further dialysis treatment and died shortly thereafter. The Tarrant County Coroner's report listed the cause of death as "homicide.")

Had civilian volunteer Allen Crum not brought along his personal M1 Carbine and joined the police officers who assaulted Whitman's position they'd have had to cover their own backs; instead both Officers Martinez and McCoy spotted Whitman seated on the floor of the north-west corner of the tower. McCoy fired his shotgun twice, and Martinez fired six rounds from his revolver before taking the shotgun and approaching the limp Whitman and firing into him again, point-blank.

Ironically, the recent legislation reauthorizing a federal *assault weapons ban* specifically names the M1 carbine carried by Crum as a prohibited weapon.

SEC. 3. DEFINITIONS.

(a) In General- Section 921(a)(30) of title 18, United States Code, as added by section 2(a) of this Act, is amended to read as follows:

`(30) The term `semiautomatic assault weapon' means any of the following:

`(A) The following rifles or copies or duplicates thereof:

`(xi) M1 Carbine;

Additionally, several other civilians on the ground returned Whitman's fire with the rifles they'd had in their vehicles, forcing Whitman to take cover and ruin his easy clear shots at fleeing victims.

Allen Crum was the floor manager on duty at the University Co-op on Guadalupe Street (also known as "The Drag") when the shooting started. After realizing what was happening, Crum exposed himself to murderous gunfire to clear the sidewalks and redirect traffic. Crum also administered first aid to a young boy who had been shot off of his bicycle; he probably saved the boy's life. He would later lead Austin policemen to the observation deck and was on the deck when Charles Whitman was killed.

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Larry Hincker; VA Tech spokesman and Vice President.

2005 - "I think it's fair to say that we believe guns don't belong in the classroom. In an academic environment, we believe you should be free from fear." - Larry Hincker

2006 - "I'm sure the university community is appreciative of the General Assembly's actions, because this will help parents, students, faculty and visitors feel safe on our campus." - Larry Hincker celebrating the defeat of the bill allowing guns on campus

hincker@vt.edu

Virginia Tech Students Doomed by Gun Ban [a 'must read']

[Dagny&Hank]

Another incidence of armed citizens stopping a shooting at a school.
1998 in Edinboro, PA

[napscoordinator]

It makes me wonder how stupid people are to think that there would not be anybody asking for weapons to have at the school with 25,000 students at the University. It scares me how stupid America has become. I am sure that they had a wide variety of people at VA TECH.

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I heard the police waited outside, till he had shot up all his ammo, saving the last bullet for himself...and THEN they went in! That they in fact, pulled another Columbine stunt. Any confirmation available?

Not so. He had additional loose rounds in his backpack when they searched his body.

He may have used up the last rounds he had in his magazines. But he did have more available.

Cho had purchased a 50-round box of 9mm ball ammunition when he bought his Glock five weeks ago in Roanoke. But that gave him five weeks to obtain more, plus any additional magazines he may have obtained, plus more ammunition for his .22.

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It's virtually a given that within a year, many of the VT seniors enrolled in ROTC will be leading a platoon of 30 or so soldiers in combat, and be responsible for the health, morale, welfare, training, and indeed, the lives of their troops.

One of them won't be.

"Tuesday night, Monsignor James F. Bouffard stood in the kitchen at Sacred Heart Parish in Haworth, N.J., and let out a heavy sigh.

"I'm staring at my lunch that’s still sitting on the counter in the kitchen," he said in a telephone interview. "Yeah, it’s been a long day." Bouffard found out that morning that one of his parishioners, Matt La Porte, 20, died in Monday's shootings at Virginia Tech. "

La Porte went to private schools from the seventh grade on, and he graduated in 2005 from Carson Long Military Institute, a private prep school in New Bloomfield, Pa., before enrolling at Virginia Tech.

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I wonder if anyone made a copy?
I don't know.
As a result of this stunt, the Attorney General has told the State Police to stop releasing the list. Biggest loss is to State gun right groups which used it to ID potential members.
At least one parole officer’s wife got a visit from a former “client” that found his home address on the list.
The guy that released it likened CCW holders to convicted sex offenders. He’s a piece of work.

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The rest of the stories about the Roanoke Times stunt can be found at:
http://www.vcdl.org/
and
http://www2.vcdl.org/webapps/vcdl/vaarchive.html?FILTER=