Giuliani Reports Skyscraping Early Money Total for White House Bid

Congressional Quarterly - CQ Politics ^ | 4/19/07

[Dog Gone]

I know it. I don’t like it, but I know it.

[Reagan Man]

>>>>>However, over this Rudy thing, I'm coming to hate some of you here on FR so much ...

That's what happens when conservatives and liberals clash on the political issues.

Btw, many FReepers of sound mind and with solid conservative credentials have know for the last year or longer, that Rudy is a divisive character, far too liberal and unfit to represent the GOP as its nominee.

OMG!... the man's an abortionist!!!

[justshutupandtakeit]

Reagan was perhaps the most media savvy president we ever had certainly on a level with FDR. He was able to get his message out IN SPITE of the media. The only one today even close is Rudy. Reagan could not be painted as an Extremist by the media because the American people KNEW and trusted him long before there was any political diminision to his persona.

He was a familiar and welcome presence in the homes of the masses from morning till night. The kids watched him show them how the Bad Guys would come to a bad end in Death Valley Days and Mom and Pop relaxed after he introduced high quality shows at night sponsored by GE.

Reagan has no succesor on the scene only an appointee of which he was VERY proud.

[conserv8ive1]

rudy isn’t the answer.
Any of the top 3 RINOS, Rudy McRomney, get in and we can kiss any difference between the parties goodbye. Not there is that much difference right now.

[Doofer]

“I also am absolutely certain that many of the naysayers on this board will eventually come to appreciate him as much as the Rudybots already do”

Not ONE person who has been against Rudy has changed their mind about him. Not ONE. You are delusional!

(((((STOP RUDY 2008 PING)))))

(((((A VOTE FOR RUDY IS A VOTE FOR HILLARY)))))

[Melas]

That's what happens when conservatives and liberals clash on the political issues.

Well I guess the upside is the humor. You actually think I'm a liberal, and I find that to be hillarious. Liberals are always appalled at my politics, but oh well, believe what you want.

[skeeter]

Looks like Jim is cleaning out the cellar...

[Registered]

Looks like Jim is cleaning out the cellar...

Or giving away the China.

Depends on your perspective.

[skeeter]

Depends on your perspective.

Its his site, his perspective.

One I happen to agree wholeheartedly with.

[Doofer]

“When all of us are gone, I hope there will be enough of you to sustain this forum.”

Rudybots represent a small fraction of FR.

Something just under 10% according to the latest FR poll.

http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/poll?poll=178;results=2

[PhilDragoo]

Miguel Estrada. Past is prologue. Amazing.

[Extremely Extreme Extremist]

And you seem damn excited about it.

No, I just think the line in the sand has finally been drawn. The days of conservatives holding their noses for the lesser of the two evils are over.

BTW, I supported Rudy initially, under the premise that he'll move to the right on the social issues (and leave them alone) and focus more on economic and national security issues. I lean Libertarian, but even I and most Libertarians are repulsed at the thought of a President who openly supports abortion and gun control in all of its ugly glory.

The fact is, is that Rudy is a die-hard liberal and has no business running for President as a Republican. If JimRob calling out these FReepers' whose panties are bunching up because Rudy isn't liked here, so be it.

Sorry Howlin, gotta disagree with you here.

[Ciexyz]

Good news bump. Let’s stand strong everyone for our convictions for Rudy. It doesn’t matter what candidate some other FReepers support, what matters is the quality of our support for Rudy.

[stephenjohnbanker]

And dropping every week : )

[Elyse]

However, over this Rudy thing, I'm coming to hate some of you here on FR so much, that voting for a candidate you support, each day becomes increasingly more difficult to contemplate.

Yes, we all know the cool people support Rudy. What a ridiculous premise to base your vote on. It's too hard to actually research the issues and support the candidate that best represents YOU, so just go to FR and see who the nice people are supporting and save yourself all that time and work.

[Elyse]

This forum becomes a third party site and drives all the Republicans off?

This forum has always been a conservative site. The fact that the majority of Republicans are conservatives accounts for the many Republicans that post here. If the Republican party elects a liberal nominee, this site will still be a conservative site and the same conservative posters that have always supported conservatives will still be posting here.

[spikeytx86]

I am basically the same as you, I supported Giuliani for a while because I believed he would call a truce on social issues and appoint good judges, but with time and contemplation I have come to see my initial assessment was false. He was the right man for the job in 2001 as mayor of NYC, but I just don't think the presidency is the right job fo r him. I however think he would make a great attorney general, secretary of homeland security, ambassador to the u.n. (won't take any of their bullsh*t), or even V.P. but not the president.

That said, I don't think a blood letting is what we need here on F.R. or in the conservative movement in general. Our enemies will exploit our division and probably already are to some extent. We are doing exactly what they wanted and expected.

As some one who was firmly in the "rudybot" camp for sometime I can say honestly that most of them like my self are pragmatic. Instead of "purging" them I believe that in time all faction's can reconcile their differences and find a common ground candidate. I think, and the polls reflect this to some extent both in the MSM and here on FR, that FT could be just that, our rallying candidate.

Tempers and passions are running very high right now, and to an extent for both sides I can understand that. I hope in time, cooler heads will prevail both here and in the movement in general, because if we fail to unify and rally around a candidate, I believe it will be 1964 all over again, except this time, I don't think it will lead to our ultimate victory in the long term.

In summary, I make this comment to everyone here including myself and to conservatives everywhere;

LET'S GROW UP, CONSERVATIVES!

[Elyse]

Instead of "purging" them I believe that in time all faction's can reconcile their differences and find a common ground candidate.

This is the problem in a nutshell, the Rudy supporters idea of compromise is - If Rudy doesn't get the nomination we will support a conservative. The rest of us are saying - First and foremost - Elect a conservative nominee! And then, we will support that conservative even if they weren't our first choice. As long as Rudy is in the equation there can be no compromise from the Rudy crowd, so Rudy has to be purged in order to have any discussion and consensus about the other candidates.

[spikeytx86]

I believe if FT were to enter the race, especially if a few other candidates drop out, the case for Giuliani will basically collapse (the only electable republican case).

I think most Giuliani supporters at least 1/2 to 2/3 would switch sides within 90 days of announcement.

[Prost1]

Really?

I ask, because there is so much conflicting evidence against the Mayor.

He appears to be a “Rockefeller” republican. Not much different than Bush. (The Bush’s and Rockefeller’s may have money, political and familty ties.)

So, why Guilliani? He seems to be a Bat Masterson or Virgil Earp. And his pick for SecHomeland Security...

Just curious.