Posted on 04/19/2007 11:04:50 AM PDT by Mia T
I don't fear Guiliani. I just think he's absolutely the wrong man for the job, especially when there are better men running.
Thanks Gracey. You keep up the good work.
Well, you have apparently posted to the wrong person, as I have not made any statements supportive of Rudy, merely supportive of the Party. Rudy is one of 3 declared candidates who can win the election. I will support the candidate of the Party, whoever that is. As for my "long winded" response, it really wasn't for you but for the numerous lurkers here who need to understand that the far right no longer has the Party under its thumb.
And do not expect people to accept Rudy as the candidate and then insult them when they refuse Rudy.
I expect no one to accept any particular candidate until he becomes the nominee of the Party. And as for insults...well, that seems to be your only tool left.
I, myself, do not think Rudy will ever get the nomination.
And that's fine. He may not. It's early in the election cycle. But I think you understand Rudy was not what my post to you was about. It may have been long winded, but you failed to address a single point I made, so I presume you simply didn't read it.
And thanks to you for the great starter.
This isn't Fred Thompson.
Indeed, Thompson exempifies DC entrenched power and the revolving door.
LOL! Relying on Wikpedia's leftist editorializing to discredit Thompson?
Look at Thompson's lobbying history -- it is universally in favor of deregulation, period. As in, get the federal government out of regulating things it has no business dealing with in the first place.
Deregulation generally works. To point to one failure that deregulation may have allowed to happen does not invalidate that deregulation was still the right thing to do.
thank you, KATIE-O. :)
Excellent commentary!
The points you want addressed are the same things that have been hashed and rehashed too many times.
It is the Rudy supporters that have nothing to sell but the same old product with a new deceptive label, to make it look more palatable.
Rudy lovers have the idea that social conservatives are not allowed to fight back, if they do, that makes them hypocrites. Many here are not willing to drop over and accept Rudy because we have no place to go.
We are also sick of being told that if we don’t vote for Rudy, we are voting for Hillary. I have posted to many Rudy people with many things other than alleged insults. Funny, too many times those posts are left unanswered. Perhaps what you call insults are the only way to get a response to a post that Rudy lovers wish to avoid.
Of course, polls are increasingly predictive the closer we are to an election. But to say they are meaningless is not true. Not only do they have some predictive value, they feed on themselves (to affect donations, support, etc) and thereby influence the ultimate outcome.
To say the campaign hasn’t started is also not true.
I will answer it. To say that sitting home or voting third party is a de facto vote for hillary not an 'insult.' It is simple mathematical fact.
If you are 'insulted,' by that fact, that tells me that either you lack a basic understanding of the mathematics involved... or, more likely, you prefer to rationalize away your de facto vote for hillary clinton, (which is understandable).
Perhaps what you call insults are the only way to get a response to a post that Rudy lovers wish to avoid.
Perhaps. I think you can distinguish an insult from a reasoned discussion. In any case, I do find it interesting (since I'm not even close to picking) that this anti-Rudy frenzy is almost cult-like. I see some of the same relating to the other 2 mainstream candidates, but nothing like Rudy. Well, I'm not a part of the social right, so I really can't understand such reaction, only judge it.
You take care.
The best hope for the conservative cause would be for Rudy to lose. Rudy is unacceptable. If he should win with conservative help, our cause would be over. If he loses, it will be a wake up call to the GOP and proof that conservatives are not willing to go left to appease the Rudy types.
That is conservative thought.
No battle is easy, but to simply "drop" your principles out of fear and fail to stand by them is the biggest loss the conservative cause can take.
Unlike you, I don't think Hillary or Obama are unbeatable. I believe if we get a good strong conservative rational candidate, to contrast the Democrats and lunacy from the left, we will have a large groundswell of support from this whole party and maybe pick up some of the Reagan Democrats we lost.
Why were posts #133 and #134 pulled? There was nothing objectionable about them (they’re quoted in their entirely in #135), even if I disagree with the premise presented?
Oh, and good morning to you.
5.56mm
I pulled them because they were wrong. I misread what you said.
Boy, you’re fast on the trigger. :)
As I don’t stand by those statements, would appreciate it if you pull your refutation. Thx.
Will be posting a replacement soon.
To be clear, I stand by the statements generally, but they don’t apply to your comments or to the situation here.
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