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In 2005, Cho was pronounced dangerous by a court magistrate(Virginia Tech Shooting)
Belleville News Democrat ^ | Apr. 18, 2007 | Lisa Zagaroli

Posted on 04/19/2007 4:54:22 AM PDT by PapaBear3625

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He was involuntarily committed to psychiatric care in 2005 by court order, yet he was able to buy a gun without it coming up on his instant-check?
1 posted on 04/19/2007 4:54:24 AM PDT by PapaBear3625
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To: PapaBear3625
The DUmmies think President Bush is more dangerous:


2 posted on 04/19/2007 4:57:40 AM PDT by advance_copy (Stand for life, or nothing at all)
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So why didn’t the authorities get him off the street?

Maybe they needed him out so that he could vote.


3 posted on 04/19/2007 4:58:14 AM PDT by Brilliant
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He was involuntarily committed in 2005 by court order, but was able to pass "instant check" to buy a gun?

4 posted on 04/19/2007 5:00:01 AM PDT by PapaBear3625
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There is no such thing as a comprehensive background check. And that's for people like this guy who was here for years. Imagine how many of the 20+ million illegals we have in this country who we don't know anything about. If they are MS-13 bangers, nutcases or serial killers.
5 posted on 04/19/2007 5:08:03 AM PDT by isthisnickcool (Hey mister, can you spare a carbon credit?)
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“He was involuntarily committed in 2005 by court order, but was able to pass “instant check” to buy a gun?”

hmm perhaps we should just automatically declare everyone guilty and make them prove their innocence?


6 posted on 04/19/2007 5:10:14 AM PDT by driftdiver
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To: advance_copy

I don’t see how you can stand to even visit the DU. That place is as nuts as Cho.


7 posted on 04/19/2007 5:13:32 AM PDT by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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To: PapaBear3625

It appears the ruling the judge used on Cho did not meet up to the standard that would put him in the database and would not allow him to buy a car.

Something didn’t work here—we either need to lower the bar for what types of mental illnesses are flagged, ask judges to deliver harsher rulings, or find some other solution.


8 posted on 04/19/2007 5:16:05 AM PDT by Burkean
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I don’t think that is what the other poster meant. Is this something that is SUPPOSED to occur and didn’t? I think most people are under the impression that gun laws prevent a mentally unstable person from legally obtaining a gun. I know I have been under that impression.


9 posted on 04/19/2007 5:16:19 AM PDT by Trust but Verify (why isn't madman good enough?)
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I agree. It will not stop everyone, but it might stop a few.


10 posted on 04/19/2007 5:17:02 AM PDT by Trust but Verify (why isn't madman good enough?)
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To: PapaBear3625

That is what my wife and I were questioning as well.


11 posted on 04/19/2007 5:23:26 AM PDT by doodad
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(Sarcasm alert)

Well obviously Cho was driven to do what he did because of Bush. Not to mention how the unfair evil capitalist system drives people to insanity.

But seriously, he will be dismissed as just a lunatic. But can you imagine the coverage that would follow if he had issues all kinds of right wing ramblings? It would have made the whole Imus thing seem like nothing.


12 posted on 04/19/2007 5:32:38 AM PDT by TNCMAXQ
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Is this something that is SUPPOSED to occur and didn’t?

It sounds like his mental condition never went far enough into the legal system for him to get into any of the databases that would have disqualified him from legally purchasing a firearm.
13 posted on 04/19/2007 5:53:42 AM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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How much time did Cho spend listening to ErrAmerica and posting on DU?


14 posted on 04/19/2007 6:01:43 AM PDT by Paladin2 (Islam is the religion of violins, NOT peas.)
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Good point! It sounds like the dirtbag soaked up and dutifully spit out all the hate America, capitalism is bad, rich exploit the poor rhetoric the left is always spewing.


15 posted on 04/19/2007 6:15:35 AM PDT by TNCMAXQ
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My guess is, that the ACLU will come down screaming “civil rights” if they try to tie psychiatric records to ANYTHING like this.

A person with an involutary commitment should NEVER be able to buy a firearm. It may not seem fair but it’s life. I do have some experience with this, by the way - my husband had long time mental illness (yes he was a postal worker!) and was bipolar. And he did have to leave work because he threatened people.

The day the postal inspectors came to my door, their first question was, “Do you have a gun in the house?” Thank God, this was NY, so I could say no. If I had said yes, I don’t like to think what may have happened.

But while he was alive our protection was a couple of very large dogs. Now, he is deceased, and only then did I feel ok getting guns for the household.


16 posted on 04/19/2007 6:32:24 AM PDT by I still care ("Remember... for it is the doom of men that they forget" - Merlin, from Excalibur)
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My guess is, that the ACLU will come down screaming “civil rights” if they try to tie psychiatric records to ANYTHING like this.

Except the ACLU tends to look the other way on Gun restrictions.

17 posted on 04/19/2007 6:34:23 AM PDT by Always Right
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So someone didn’t file the paperwork, and he was able to get a gun.

I get flagged because someone with my same first and last name in California got arrested for eco terrorism, and this guy was pronounced dangerous and was able to buy a pistol no problem.

Nuts.

18 posted on 04/19/2007 6:35:20 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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A person with an involutary commitment should NEVER be able to buy a firearm.

An involuntary commitment order would have disqualified him from legally purchasing a firearm but so far it sounds like things never went that far.
19 posted on 04/19/2007 6:35:26 AM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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The fact that Cho was permitted to attend Virginia Tech in spite of his psychiatric history and his harassment of women students is evidence of the inability of publicly run institutions, from kindergarten to graduate school, to effectively deal with troublemakers. Administrators obviously fear lawsuits if they expel such students, even if they disrupt campus life and threaten their fellow students. Of course, physical discipline of students is either illegal or an unused tool, as is the case in Texas and other Southern states.

Private schools at least have the option of expelling troublesome students without as much danger of lawsuits Adas state-run schools experience, as contractual law, rather than legislation and court decisions on the "rights" of students, still prevails. It is incumbent that state legislatures strengthen the hand of school administrators to expel troublemakers, and, in the case of elementary or secondary students, force them to attend what used to be called reform schools if they remain in public education.

As importantly, the legislatures need to use their power over public university purse strings to rein in college faculties and administrations dominated by leftists. If the trustees of the colleges resist, the state governments should either tell the colleges to go private, after paying off the state's investment, or remove the trustees.

20 posted on 04/19/2007 6:44:03 AM PDT by Wallace T.
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