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Killer's Note: 'You Caused Me to Do This'
ABC News ^ | 4/17/07

Posted on 04/17/2007 9:51:27 AM PDT by areafiftyone

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To: ER_in_OC,CA

I’d say that’s a pretty good wild guess. The connection with Islam is very thin at best. Sometimes people over-think things or are too clever by half. Your guess is better than most.


161 posted on 04/17/2007 11:18:39 AM PDT by Trust but Verify
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To: najida
No kidding.

We simply don't have all of the facts that the investigators do. And none of us has superior information to make a judgement as to what was going on in this nut's head before the police do.
162 posted on 04/17/2007 11:20:25 AM PDT by Lusis ("Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself.")
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To: All

http://www.nypost.com/seven/04172007/news/nationalnews/va__tech_killer_revealed_nationalnews_.htm

Sources told the Tribune that the words “ISMAIL AX” were also found written in red ink on the inside of one of Cho’s arms.

The reference may be to the Islamic account of the Biblical sacrifice of Abraham, where God commands the patriarch to sacrifice his own son. Abraham begins to comply, but God intervenes at the last moment to save the boy.

In the Jewish and Christian traditions, the son is Isaac, father of the Jewish people; in Islam, it is his brother, Ismail (Ishmael in Hebrew).

Abraham uses a knife in most versions of the story, but some accounts have him wielding an ax.

A more obscure reference may be to a passage in the Koran referring to Abraham’s destruction of pagan idols; in some accounts, he uses an ax to do so.


163 posted on 04/17/2007 11:20:35 AM PDT by maggief
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To: najida

Move on to another barn then


164 posted on 04/17/2007 11:21:33 AM PDT by not2worry ( What goes around comes around!)
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To: not2worry

You first!


165 posted on 04/17/2007 11:22:14 AM PDT by najida (Just call me a chicken rancher :))
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To: dfwgator
LOL.

The sad thing is that many people here will probably cite this as "evidence" that the crime was motivated by some Islamic connection.

166 posted on 04/17/2007 11:22:35 AM PDT by cdbull23 ("If it's brown, drink it down. If it's black, send it back." - Homer on what's good to drink.)
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn
Charles Bishop (Bishra)
A note written by the 15-year-old boy who crashed a Cessna into a Tampa office building indicated he supported Osama bin Laden and that the act was deliberate, authorities say.
167 posted on 04/17/2007 11:22:46 AM PDT by Beckwith (dhimmicrats and the liberal media have chosen sides -- Islamofascism)
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To: Truth-The Anti Spin

In other words, let’s wait for the media to tell us what’s what. If there’s any Islamist connection here, they’ll be sure to report it.

Like they did with the Trolley Square killer last month.


168 posted on 04/17/2007 11:23:27 AM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
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To: Lusis

I think that’s just it.

We’re expecting logic and patterns in the mind of a madman. It doesn’t exist. Answers won’t be there.

Just a wasteland of chaos. Sadly, that is what the truth probably is....jibberish.


169 posted on 04/17/2007 11:24:01 AM PDT by najida (Just call me a chicken rancher :))
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To: Beckwith

The media didn’t tell us jack about that one, either.


170 posted on 04/17/2007 11:24:02 AM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
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To: Truth-The Anti Spin

I’m not grasping at any straws that I know of straws. I am posting what has been reported elsewhere, and commenting on how it has been edited. As I mentioned earlier, the Moby Dick reference would be the most logical explanation given that he was studying English in college, but we might never know, because this person is dead.


171 posted on 04/17/2007 11:24:53 AM PDT by 3AngelaD
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To: cdbull23
They already are (you’re behind!) ;)

Seriously, the stretching is reaching a crescendo.

172 posted on 04/17/2007 11:25:30 AM PDT by najida (Just call me a chicken rancher :))
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To: cdbull23

If they will, why haven’t they already? C’mon, find an example of one person seriously suggesting it.

What’s sad is the number of people who refuse to acknowledge there’s a war with Islam going on.


173 posted on 04/17/2007 11:25:32 AM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
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To: jveritas

“Yep, they want to ignore the Muslim nickname that he took.”

I missed that. Any links?


174 posted on 04/17/2007 11:26:40 AM PDT by Rb ver. 2.0 (A day in the country is better than a week in town.)
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To: areafiftyone

Me too. To think that man lived through the nightmares of the 20th century and then ended up like this, and was saving lives as he died.


175 posted on 04/17/2007 11:27:04 AM PDT by 3AngelaD
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To: najida

Post a link to one post seriously suggesting the word KOREAN has anything to do with the word KORAN. Just one link will do.


176 posted on 04/17/2007 11:27:19 AM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
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To: ER_in_OC,CA
My wild guess is that “Ismail Ax” is some moniker he used in an online game. Or some bizarre protagonist of his creative writing.

Bah, he wrote it with the opposite hand, it's "Xa Liamsi"....sounds Korean to me...;)

177 posted on 04/17/2007 11:28:26 AM PDT by ScreamingFist (Annihilation - The result of underestimating your enemies. NRA)
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To: GoLightly

Wow.


178 posted on 04/17/2007 11:28:47 AM PDT by saveliberty (Prayer blizzard for Tony and Jill Snow and their family.)
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To: 3AngelaD

A generation of heros!


179 posted on 04/17/2007 11:30:37 AM PDT by areafiftyone
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
"What’s sad is the number of people who refuse to acknowledge there’s a war with Islam going on."

Who's NOT acknowledging that we're at war? Hey, I'll agree, if people don't acknowledge that, then they have a problem. But acknowledging we're at war is one thing -- playing pin the tail on the donkey and trying to connect the two incidents based on his "Ismail Ax" reference is another.

If REAL evidence comes out that this was motivated by religion, then I say start making the connections. Otherwise, it's silly.

180 posted on 04/17/2007 11:31:00 AM PDT by cdbull23 ("If it's brown, drink it down. If it's black, send it back." - Homer on what's good to drink.)
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