Are Mobile Phones Wiping Out Critical Bee Industry

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[Boundless]

> Could you give me a brief description on the theory
> on how cellphone towers would wipe out bees?
> Is it just the radiation???

The conjecture is that the radiation interferes with
bee navigation. They can’t find their way home to the
hive.

So the problem would depend on the relationship of the
wavelength of the signal and the micro-geometry of the
bee sensors; and power of the signal. Due to different
evolving standards, this would have different outcomes
in different regions.

We might also expect to see little or zero effect in
“dark territory” where cell coverage is weak or
non-existent (which is most of the rural areas here).

[tgusa]

I refuse to return to my work cube when a ‘neighbor’ doesn’t have his cell phone on privacy mode. Bees apparently have more sense than most humans. Next ......

[johnny7]

Just more proof that you can be stung... by a dead bee.

[scottteng]

http://www.invasivespeciesinfo.gov/animals/afrhonbee.shtml
This is likelier culprit than cell phone towers. The only way to get rid of them is to destroy the entire hive. The Africanized bees are not good honey producers and are more aggressive. Keeping bees is much more difficult than before so fewer people are keeping bees.

[txzman]

“If only we could find something that would wipe out idiots and politicians.”

My coffee snarf humor for the morning!

[woodbutcher]

The article says that the bee problem happened first in the U.S., then in Europe. Mobile phones became popular first in Europe, then in the U.S.

The timing seems wrong.

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Another problem with that theory is that the article states that the usual conditions found after a hive is abandoned are not found in these cases. Without going back and quoting exactly, something to the effect that robber bees and other things that ordinarily take over the hives shun these hives.

So how could cell phone radiation cause these various after effects?

I have reached a conclusion: Government grants are leading to the corruption of universities in particular and all research in general.

Witness the millions upon millions given to universities and other organizations to study global warming. They HAVE to find something wrong or they do not get any more grants. You do not get grants to study something that you have found to be perfection.

Congress should severely restrict grants, but they will not because all congressmen want the major universities and research organizations in their districts to prosper.

End of rant.

[NoControllingLegalAuthority]

My wife had earlier told me that migratory birds have been also having problems with finding their normal courses and that was also thought to be related to the high frequency saturation of cell phone signals.

Something does seem to be disrupting the navigation of bees. Hives are being found with the queen and a few workers while all the other workers are MIA. Workers depart to gather pollen. If they cannot find their way back, it makes sense they are dying individually while lost. Nobody has found "clumps" of dead bees and millions and millions have died. It seems logical they are dying alone, some distance from the hive.

Unlike Varroa Mites which kill bees in the hives, this recent massive killing is very unusual.

As a former beekeeper, I don't think this is funny and it is going to impact us.

[dawn53]

I read an article on this a few weeks ago. Here’s a link and some of the info from the article:

But David Hackenberg and many of his fellow beekeepers think they know what is killing their bees: an increasingly prevalent class of insecticide called neonicotinoids that they suspect for the following reasons:

- Neonicotinoids have been strictly limited in France since the 1990s, when they were implicated in a similar mass die-off.

- The use of neonicotinoids has spread rapidly in recent years as the hives began collapsing.

- Neonicotinoids are artificial forms of nicotine that act as neurotoxins to insects, entomologists say. That may account for worker bees neglecting to provide food for eggs and larvae, and for a breakdown of the bees’ navigational abilities.

The first widely used neonicotinoid was approved by the Environmental Protection Agency in 1994, and quickly became popular, said Mark Mossler, a plant medicine expert at the University of Florida.

Neonicotinoids are less toxic to humans than most old-line pesticides and, because they are absorbed by the plants, can be narrowly focused to the pests that feed on the treated crop. But because the chemicals are taken up by the plants, they are likely to appear in nectar and pollen of crops that cover vast areas.

http://www.sptimes.com/2007/04/08/Floridian/One_beekeeper_s_chaos.shtml

[spokeshave]

Very simple....infected with Califoria-itis....since native west coast bees are not social (don’t make hives)...

[poindexter]

This isn't meant for you, it's for the theory:

[spokeshave]

When people envision the home of a bee, they most frequently think of a honeycomb or a bee box, the likes of which we see in orchards around California. However, unlike honey bees, most native California bees are non-social in habit, meaning they make individual nests. Limited knowledge exists about where these bees nest in urban environments, however, three general nesting habits are known of solitary native bees: The most common is the ground nesting habit, and probably 85% or more of species build their nests in some type of soil. Another nest type is the preexisting cavity, which can be found in dead tree branches (for example, in old oak trees) or holes in human structures of wood, metal, or masonry blocks. The third, more uncommon, type is wood frames and paneling that large carpenter bees may use to bore out holes for their nests - often to the great displeasure of urbanites!

[unixfox]

That's being redundant....

And...it gives idiots a bad name.

[Anti-Bubba182]

Personally I think the cause is the Illuminati, fluoridated water and the Joooooooooooooooos.

[MadelineZapeezda]

Looks like Karl Rove has been busy as a bee!!!!

[Big Horn]

The bee keepers I know say their worst problems are mites and drought.

[Vn_survivor_67-68]

Bayer’s Gaucho blamed

http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/sepp/2003/11/26/millions_of_bees_dead_bayers_gaucho_blamed.htm

the cause has been known for at least 3 years......LONG before we heard much about the bees.

[mewzilla]

Related link...

The bees who flew too high.

But it's kinda hard to sue the sun, even for shysters.

[mad_as_he$$]

"There was a similar problem in the late 50’s early 60’s."

Micro wave tower?

[Bernard Marx]

Due to different evolving standards, this would have different outcomes in different regions. We might also expect to see little or zero effect in “dark territory”

A testable thesis. Someone (you) is doing some good thinking about the problem instead of doing the Chicken Little routine.

[mad_as_he$$]

That makes more sense than the other theories I have seen.