"Of course I'm a virgin, Honey. Would I lie about a thing like that?"
Posted on 04/14/2007 11:25:18 AM PDT by wagglebee
Very well said.
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“Aside from the possibility of being assaulted by an HPV carrier, no one else who leads a sexually moral life needs to be at risk of this particular cause of cervical cancer. “
The problem with that statement is the female could be leading a sexual moral life and, unbeknownst to her, the male could be sleeping around on the side and bringing home diseases to her.
Both of those women are very pretty - are they representative of Australian women? Given that country’s stance against Islamofascists, and now the prospect of attractive young women, I might have to move there, live my life, and find my wife.
"Of course I'm a virgin, Honey. Would I lie about a thing like that?"
IIRC, there are also a lot more women than men in Australia.
The real problem, is that the vaccine only works against 4 out
of about 16 different HPV viruses....if someone thinks they
are protected against all HPV viruses they would be
incorrect. Therefore risk is still there. I would guess the
risk of spreading the other non-covered virus would increase
as long as people copulate with HPV carriers, soon the
non-covered viruses would predominate in the community.
I think you know what should be done with those who know
they are HPV/HIV/HepC/HepB positive and infect others.
And you know what we should do with rapists in that class.
I agree.
And I add that the modern world is pill-happy.
Too often we do not learn the harm to health incurred by having rushed into some new pill or injection until many become sick or die.
So you make sure you get the vaccine before you sleep with any man, including your husband.
The real problem, is that the vaccine only works against 4 out of about 16 different HPV viruses,
That's correct, but those 4 are the ones that cause the problems. Many HPV viruses don't cause significant disease or predispose to cancer, so why worry about them?
Problem - there is no way of knowing; no HPV-specific STD 'test', unlike HIV or HEP, exists.
In it's dormant state (which is most of the time), a carrier, male or female, shows no symptoms whatsoever.
The only good news is that, except for those times when it promotes cervical cancer cell growth, it seems to simply run its' course and disappear over a year, two, or three.
IMO, I think the vaccine is a good preventative - kinda like the SALK shots we all got as kids.
The government has no business mandating a vaccine for a disease that can’t be passed by sitting next to someone in school.
How about exposure to blood products (saliva, direct sneeze, helping a friend bandage a cut or scrape, etc etc) which can happen in a non-sexual context?
I'm not clear on whether I condone the mandate approach. I do know that parents today don't take a pro-active health approach given the new risks which are out there now.
I can't remember whether the SALK polio vaccine was government mandated, but my parents felt that it offered protection against one more of the worlds' risk, at that time (50's) so we got it.
The more vaccines the government mandates, the more children are affected by vaccine injuries. Those children are just as valuable, and their injuries offset the few who would be helped by this.
This is NOT government’s place.
Also, transmission of measles gives you measles.
Why on earth should ALL girls have to receive a vaccine for something that is not directly transmitted?
A child MAY contract HPV IF she HAPPENS to come in contact with a blood product of an affected child and then MAY contract one of the 4 cancer causing HPVs and then MAY get cancer.
I would like to know what the chances of such an event happening are.
Statistically low. And isn't that offset by the 'injuries' created by the diseases that the vaccines prevent?
Again, my mandate-nuetrality is the result of the parental apathy/responsibility abdication I see around me today.
YMMV...
Want one publicised example?Several students of a wrestling team back East were infected with Herpes as a result of sporting contact with an infected player.
Can happen without direct sexual contact...
Statistically low means NOTHING when it is your child damaged.
My nephew was brain damaged by a “safe” DPT shot.
He is now 23 and functions at the level of a 3 year old. I would rather have my child die from a disease than to inflict on them what my poor nephew has gone through. His whole life was taken away. He has no personality. Can’t communicate. Can’t talk. Hasn’t said “I love you” since he was two.
Go ahead and dismiss those children. I find it vile.
I repeat. There has to be a chain of events in the case of this vaccine. I don’t believe that vaccinating all the girls in the country can be justified.
A mandated flu shot would save more lives.
It's certainly terrible when it does happen, but that sort of rare reaction isn't a good argument for the cessation of universal DPT inoculation
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