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The Illegal-Alien Crime Wave (Rudy is a Fighter...for the Illegals)
FrontPageMag ^ | 01/14/2004 | Heather MacDonald

Posted on 04/13/2007 12:28:46 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007

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To: flashbunny
“.....Rudy’s idea of “adequate border security” is the “virtual fence”. Which is no fence......”

Technology is much better in areas where fencing is impossible. That and more border guards, hundreds more!!

61 posted on 04/13/2007 2:23:00 PM PDT by KATIE-O ( Rudy Giuliani '08 - Restoring Optimism For The Republican Party.)
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To: flashbunny

You wish, honey. Be careful, your jealousy is showing.

Now run along and help out some loser candidate.

In the interim, I’m just delighted with Rudy’s 61% favorability ratings and that my husband is taking me out to dinner tonight. Toodles.


62 posted on 04/13/2007 2:24:08 PM PDT by Peach (Not banned yet.)
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To: KATIE-O

I think you meant to post that to Ultra Sonic or whatever his name is, Katie.


63 posted on 04/13/2007 2:24:37 PM PDT by Peach (Not banned yet.)
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To: calcowgirl

I thought it would be hard to find a Republican candidate worse on immigration than President Bush, but I think we actually have two in McCain and Giuliani.

Its getting harder and harder to take Giuliani’s alleged support for Scalia-type judges seriously. As of now, I would be shocked if a President Giuliani actually came through with a conservative nomination. I think its much more likely that he’d intentionally give us a Souter or an O’Connor.


64 posted on 04/13/2007 2:24:52 PM PDT by Aetius
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To: Peach
....I think you meant to post that to Ultra Sonic or whatever his name is, Katie.....”

Uh-Oh, Yes, I did! Thanks! Enjoy your dinner date with hubby! :)

Go Rudy!!

65 posted on 04/13/2007 2:27:27 PM PDT by KATIE-O ( Rudy Giuliani '08 - Restoring Optimism For The Republican Party.)
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To: calcowgirl
Mayor Seeks Immigration Coalition
By DAVID FIRESTONE
Published: October 11, 1996

Having received national attention for his vigorous stand in favor of immigration, Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani today announced the formation of a coalition of prominent New Yorkers to help him lead the fight against the provisions of two new Federal laws that he views as anti-immigrant.

The Mayor also said he planned to file suit on Friday in Federal court in New York City challenging a provision in the new welfare law, as well as a similar provision in the new Federal immigration law, that allows city employees to turn in illegal immigrants who seek services like police protection, hospital care and public education. The provisions overturn a New York City executive order in effect since 1985 that forbids city employees from reporting illegal immigrants, and the Mayor said last month he would fight them.

... At a time when even President Clinton has been signing laws that deprive legal immigrants of government benefits, he said, it is important for other voices to be heard.

...Among the members of the coalition, he said, would be Robert Tisch, co-chairman of Loew's Corporation; Alan Greenberg, chairman of Bear Stearns & Company; Peter Max, the artist; George Soros, the international financier and founder of the Emma Lazarus Fund, which assists legal immigrants, and William Fugazy, the transportation company executive. He said that the United Jewish Appeal and the New York Association for New Americans were among the other organizations planning to join him.

The coalition, he said, will urge Washington to rewrite the provisions that affect legal immigrants, and will offer specific help to those immigrants who lose their benefits under the new laws. The city's Office of Immigrant Affairs, part of the Mayor's office, will also be used to help immigrants affected by the laws.

66 posted on 04/13/2007 2:28:16 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: KATIE-O

It’s not a ping list. I ping random people to Giuliani articles.

I just find it amusing that you don’t even bother acknowledging Giuliani’s positions. Ignoring it will not make them go away.


67 posted on 04/13/2007 2:28:18 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (Why vote for Duncan Hunter in 2008? Look at my profile.)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

If your an illegal alien and you are found with a gun you should be treated as an armed combatant and shot on site. If you come into this country armed to force your will on US citizens you are an invader and should be shot. You have no rights. You don’t get a trial you get a bullet. That’s the way it should be.


68 posted on 04/13/2007 2:28:29 PM PDT by upier ("Usted no es agradable en America" "Ahora deporte Illegals")
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To: beltfed308
What is sickening is Mr. Law & Order defies the court ruling even after losing. If he disagrees with the law it is ok to break it. To bad the mere citizen doesn't have that option.

Exactly! Apparently, "freedom is about the willingness of every single human being [except Rudy Giuliani] to cede to lawful authority a great deal of discretion about what [they] do."

I deplore government officials who think they don't have to abide by the rules they force on other citizens at gunpoint.

69 posted on 04/13/2007 2:30:07 PM PDT by ellery (I don't remember a constitutional amendment that gives you the right not to be identified-R.Giuliani)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007
“....I want you to take me off your ping list.....”

Take me off too. I never asked to be put on your Ping list to begin with. I am tired of seeing old, old articles dredged up by RudyPhobes.

Thank you.

70 posted on 04/13/2007 2:30:25 PM PDT by KATIE-O ( Rudy Giuliani '08 - Restoring Optimism For The Republican Party.)
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To: KATIE-O

I’ve done that too and then kicked myself. See you tomorrow. In the interim, have a good evening knowing that those favorability #’s for Rudy have a lot of people freaking out.


71 posted on 04/13/2007 2:31:34 PM PDT by Peach (Not banned yet.)
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To: flashbunny

I’ll go out on a limb (a very long and stout one) and declare that within a week of Thompson declaring, he will be ahead of Rudy in the polls.


72 posted on 04/13/2007 2:32:13 PM PDT by rottndog (The INS only aims to “terrorize people.” ~Rudy Giuliani)
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To: KATIE-O

*sigh*

You know what? Fine.

I’ve come to the conclusion that, no matter how what is shown about Rudy’s record - taxpayer-funded abortion, advocacy for national gun control, ignoring the law as it applied to illegal immigrants, his poor judicial appointments, his lackluster understanding of the Constitution, even his robust spending in the last half of his mayoral term - you and many other Rudy supporters won’t change. You’ll just point to poll after poll, as if that’s some justification for his liberalism.

Here’s a hint: Bill Clinton was popular too.

Have a good day ma’am. I hope you’ll start thinking rationally again, but I won’t get my hopes up.

And here I thought conservatives were supposed to bring down liberals...

Your tagline is kind of laughable; why should a conservative be optimistic about a liberal like Giuliani?


73 posted on 04/13/2007 2:33:14 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (Why vote for Duncan Hunter in 2008? Look at my profile.)
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To: Aetius

My reference to “constitutional abuses” had to do with this post
(a good first attempt at putting them all on one piece of paper).
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1816178/posts?page=38#38

Given the evidence, I don’t believe the pledge to appoint “Scalia-type” judges one iota
(unless he means that he’ll appoint white males or something—lol)


74 posted on 04/13/2007 2:33:28 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007
".....It’s not a ping list. I ping random people to Giuliani articles.

I just find it amusing that you don’t even bother acknowledging Giuliani’s positions. Ignoring it will not make them go away....."

You post mostly very old articles, back when Rudy had a ton of hair! Fuggedaboudit!

75 posted on 04/13/2007 2:35:02 PM PDT by KATIE-O ( Rudy Giuliani '08 - Restoring Optimism For The Republican Party.)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007
....Your tagline is kind of laughable; why should a conservative be optimistic about a liberal like Giuliani?.....”

And so is yours! Sorry but the guy doesn’t stand a snowball's chance in hell of becoming President.

76 posted on 04/13/2007 2:38:16 PM PDT by KATIE-O ( Rudy Giuliani '08 - Restoring Optimism For The Republican Party.)
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To: CedarDave
A great article on the illegal alien problem, but then I look at title and understand that the only reason to post a 3+ year old article is to bash Rudy.

Respectfully, I think it's valuable to get all the past information out there on candidates' records, because their past behavior is more useful than their current rhetoric at predicting their actions as president. This applies to all candidates.

I also think that most (not all) of the supposed bashing of the candidates simply amounts to posting their own past words and actions. If those past words and actions reflect badly on them as candidates, then we're better off knowing about it before we select a candidate.

I've been working hard at not bashing people for supporting this or that candidate, but the records of the candidates themselves are fair game (even if those records make them look bad, as Rudy's too often do IMO).

Best FReegards.

77 posted on 04/13/2007 2:39:05 PM PDT by ellery (I don't remember a constitutional amendment that gives you the right not to be identified-R.Giuliani)
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To: rottndog

I think the older one was a little better.

If this had been an actual emergency, you would have been told what to do.


78 posted on 04/13/2007 2:40:10 PM PDT by Kevmo (Duncan Hunter just needs one Rudy G Campaign Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM)
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To: KATIE-O
Record is important, and his past mayoral performance SHOULD be scrutinized. Why else do you think this happens to presidential candidates?

You post mostly very old articles, back when Rudy had a ton of hair! Fuggedaboudit!

We certainly went back farther than that for Kerry. Should we stop for Republicans? No; we don't want to get burned.

And so is yours! Sorry but the guy doesn’t stand a snowball's chance in hell of becoming President.

At least he's a conservative. And least I remind you, the primaries still haven't happened yet.

79 posted on 04/13/2007 2:42:16 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (Why vote for Duncan Hunter in 2008? Look at my profile.)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007
“....At least he’s a conservative. And least I remind you, the primaries still haven’t happened yet.....”

If he gets the Republican Party’s nomination, he’ll get my vote. We HAVE to win!!

80 posted on 04/13/2007 2:44:22 PM PDT by KATIE-O ( Rudy Giuliani '08 - Restoring Optimism For The Republican Party.)
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