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The Illegal-Alien Crime Wave (Rudy is a Fighter...for the Illegals)
FrontPageMag ^ | 01/14/2004 | Heather MacDonald

Posted on 04/13/2007 12:28:46 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007

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Immigration politics have similarly harmed New York. Former mayor Rudolph Giuliani sued all the way up to the Supreme Court to defend the city’s sanctuary policy against a 1996 federal law decreeing that cities could not prohibit their employees from cooperating with the INS. Oh yeah? said Giuliani; just watch me. The INS, he claimed, with what turned out to be grotesque irony, only aims to “terrorize people.” Though he lost in court, he remained defiant to the end. On September 5, 2001, his handpicked charter-revision committee ruled that New York could still require that its employees keep immigration information confidential to preserve trust between immigrants and government. Six days later, several visa-overstayers participated in the most devastating attack on the city and the country in history.

Am I the only one who sees the irony in calling Rudy Giuliani the "Tough on terror, national security" candidate if he does this sort of thing?

1 posted on 04/13/2007 12:28:52 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007
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“Rudy fought for illegal immigrants” ping.


2 posted on 04/13/2007 12:30:40 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (Why vote for Duncan Hunter in 2008? Look at my profile.)
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Ping.


3 posted on 04/13/2007 12:32:28 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (Why vote for Duncan Hunter in 2008? Look at my profile.)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007; Liz

Liz, US007 works on ultrasonic speed. LOL


4 posted on 04/13/2007 12:33:13 PM PDT by pissant
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To: Ultra Sonic 007
Rudy Giuliani - The Illegal Alien's friend.


5 posted on 04/13/2007 12:36:28 PM PDT by flashbunny (<--- Free Anti-Rino graphics! See Rudy the Rino get exposed as a liberal with his own words!)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007
Am I the only one who sees the irony in calling Rudy Giuliani the "Tough on terror, national security" candidate if he does this sort of thing?

Nope.

But he did sign a law keeping 20-year-olds from buying box cutters.

And sued New Yorker magazine for poking fun at him in ads on buses.

And took guns away from long-term legal permit holders.

While fighting federal law and federal court rulings to end NYC's sanctuary city policy.

He sure did have his priorities straight.

6 posted on 04/13/2007 12:36:39 PM PDT by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08/But Fred would also be great)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

Nice find, Ultra! The money quote: “The INS, he claimed, with what turned out to be grotesque irony, only aims to “terrorize people.”


7 posted on 04/13/2007 12:37:55 PM PDT by dynachrome ("Where am I? Where am I going? Why am I in a handbasket?")
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

NO!!!


8 posted on 04/13/2007 12:40:27 PM PDT by panthermom (DUNCAN HUNTER 2008)
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What is sickening is Mr. Law & Order defies the court ruling even after losing. If he disagrees with the law it is ok to break it. To bad the mere citizen doesn't have that option.
9 posted on 04/13/2007 12:40:29 PM PDT by beltfed308 (Rudy: When you absolutely,positively need a liberal for President.)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

No, you’re not the only one. But expect crickets to any questions about how this reflects on rudy’s supposedly brilliant position in WOT. Or just plain insults.


10 posted on 04/13/2007 12:41:07 PM PDT by Kevmo (Duncan Hunter just needs one Rudy G Campaign Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM)
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Remember the defense of rudy and public funding of abortion?

“He has to obey the law! What do you expect him to do, disobey the law that requires this!?!?!?

When I asked them about him and illegal aliens, they oddly refused to answer those questions.


11 posted on 04/13/2007 12:41:56 PM PDT by flashbunny (<--- Free Anti-Rino graphics! See Rudy the Rino get exposed as a liberal with his own words!)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

Hmmm, very interesting...


12 posted on 04/13/2007 12:42:10 PM PDT by LongElegantLegs (<--- "Crazy Aunt" Conservative)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007
".....For the sake of immigrants and native-born Americans alike, it’s time to decide what our immigration policy is—and enforce it....."

Rudy's speech in Newport Beach, California last month:

On immigration, he told reporters he doesn't support amnesty for illegal immigrants, but he could support a guest worker program if there were adequate border security and tamper-proof ID cards. He said that even if illegal immigrants "can demonstrate that they are lawful, that they are paying taxes [and] that they'll pay penalties," they still shouldn't be put ahead of people who go through legal channels.

"And citizenship here, if it's earned, should be premised on being able to read and write English and understand American history, so we restore assimilation to the process of immigration," he said.

Giuliani is racking up an impressive list of Orange County GOP supporters, but not everyone laughing and raising their glasses to him Saturday has pledged their full support.

"I want to see how this all shakes out," said Dana Point Mayor Diane Harkey, who hasn't endorsed a presidential candidate. "I like Rudy Giuliani. I think he can carry New York, which is huge for the Republican party."

13 posted on 04/13/2007 12:42:43 PM PDT by KATIE-O ( Rudy Giuliani '08 - Restoring Optimism For The Republican Party.)
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The INS only aims to “terrorize people.” ~Rudy Giuliani

***Oh, my gosh! That is tagline worthy. I’m sticking with my current tagline, but someone like JRios might want it.

JRios1968 (Tagline wanted...inquire within).


14 posted on 04/13/2007 12:46:03 PM PDT by Kevmo (Duncan Hunter just needs one Rudy G Campaign Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM)
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To: flashbunny
When I asked them about him and illegal aliens, they oddly refused to answer those questions.

They have no defense. Now if we didn't pay a simple traffic ticket in NYC we would be hounded to the depths of hell. Rudy is an elitist and simply felt the law didn't apply to his administration. A dangerous combination with someone who is eerily like Nifong in a lot of ways.

15 posted on 04/13/2007 12:46:14 PM PDT by beltfed308 (Rudy: When you absolutely,positively need a liberal for President.)
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To: KATIE-O
Six days later, several visa-overstayers participated in the most devastating attack on the city and the country in history.

Rudys position now is like putting the toothpaste back in the tube.

16 posted on 04/13/2007 12:49:48 PM PDT by beltfed308 (Rudy: When you absolutely,positively need a liberal for President.)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

Take me off your ping list, unless you’d like me to start pinging you to articles and polls which show Rudy’s 61% favorability rating. I’ve asked you before and you’ve not yet complied with my request.


17 posted on 04/13/2007 12:55:36 PM PDT by Peach (Not banned yet.)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

I’m always trolling the: “Rudolph (`Alphabet’) Giuliani is the Answer to Our Prayers”/bygawdit’sinevitable!” threads and raising hell with his tooters . . . but I rarely see them on these threads defending him.

Why is that?

Is it because when the argument involves the conservative credentials of a given candidate, they are defenseless?
For example, this article on the issue of illegal aliens:
“Former mayor Rudolph Giuliani sued all the way up to the Supreme Court to defend the city’s sanctuary policy against a 1996 federal law decreeing that cities could not prohibit their employees from cooperating with the INS. Oh yeah? said Giuliani; just watch me. The INS, he claimed, with what turned out to be grotesque irony, only aims to “terrorize people.” Though he lost in court, he remained defiant to the end.”
There it is. If he is elected you can be sure he will also continue his assault on the 2nd Amendment.
Finally, how can anyone holding him/herself out as a conservative defend abortion, or partial birth abortion?
They can’t. That’s why.


18 posted on 04/13/2007 12:56:14 PM PDT by tumblindice (New York, New York--a hell of a town. So hellish, they warn you twice.)
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To: beltfed308
"like putting the toothpaste KY jelly back in the tube.
19 posted on 04/13/2007 12:56:29 PM PDT by dynachrome ("Where am I? Where am I going? Why am I in a handbasket?")
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To: KATIE-O

Rudy’ sure changed his tune, eh?

The problem is that he has a track record of ignoring and refusing to enforce laws he disagrees with, even when he loses in court. This one fact in and of itself, IMHO, makes him completely unfit for POTUS, whose primary responsibility it to enforce the laws enacted by congress, even the ones he disagrees with.


20 posted on 04/13/2007 1:02:18 PM PDT by rottndog (Fred Thompson will mop the floor with all the other Republican nominees.)
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