Posted on 04/12/2007 9:34:54 AM PDT by TexConfederate1861
Yes, it’s included with the Southern states, but if you grew up in any other part of the south, it certainly doesn’t feel like it. LOL
If a man was raising troops say in Illinois, to fight against it’s citizens, then that is TREASON against one’s home and state. Confederate Troops were a different story. As for Tennessee, I can’t speak for their actions.....
Why do that?, my ancestors WERE Normans! :)
Oh-oh! Mine were Celts and Saxons!!
It's a good thing we are not talking face to face - not only would we re-enact the Civil War, we'd probably be re-fighting the War of Roses and the Franco-Prussian War too!
Besides, the economy of the south was heavily dependent on slaves whether or not one personally owned slaves.
That fort was no LONGER Federal Property as of Dec 1860.
Therefore you are wrong.
No, I'm not foaming at the mouth. I find it interesting that for the entire history of the English common law, the executive had no authority to suspend the writ (it was a power beyond even the King), the Constitution explicitly charges Congress, not the President, with the power to suspend the writ, and that every single time the issue has been before a federal court, the court has held that the President has no such power, yet, despite all this, you still argue that it is lawful for the President to suspend the writ.
I admit that my mind is boggled by those who are utterly unable to grasp facts before them.
Incidentally, Rehnquist voted with the plurality in Hamdi, didn't he? Guess if he had any doubts, they were resolved by 2004, huh?
By the way, how did Scalia vote in that case?
True....I have been to Mississippi....UGH! :)
Pascagoula...anal cavity of the South! :)
If a man is in the United States, raising troops to fight against the United States, THAT is treason.
That being the case, it's hard to take anyone seriously, for everyone is biased. But apart from personalities, and his error in not including the sins of the south, what did you think of his assessment of Lincoln's actions relating to his setting aside the constitution?
Some of mine were too.....:)
My family in Scotland were Jacobites.....:)
Not according to Ft. Sumpter. This is directly from their website:
Decades of growing strife between North and South erupted in civil war on April 12, 1861, when Confederate artillery opened fire on this Federal fort in Charleston Harbor.
Sorry - YOU'RE wrong.
And my kids all consider themselves Texans through and through!
Only immoral to some. And YES, the economy was dependent, and the Federal Government had no right to take away the legal property of it’s citizens.
But Texans fought for many other reasons.
But they weren’t. They were in the Confederate States of America.
Spelling is S-U-M-T-E-R.......
A website doesn’t overturn the Act of Secession.
They are his words, but it's a shame that he never had the chance to learn just how wrong he was since he died before you could set him straight.
I'm not sure how it could have been answered by Hamdi, either. In Hamdi v Rumsfeld habeas corpus again had not been suspended. Not by the president. Not by Congress. The matter before the court was whether a U.S. citizen could be denied due process not who suspended it. The Court ruled they could not.
Then Welcome....but please do not dishonor our Texas Confederate Dead. :)
I highly doubt it since Hamdi didn't deal with a suspension of habeas corpus but a denial of due process.
By the way, how did Scalia vote in that case?
With the majority. Thomas was the sole desenting vote. And by the way, you might want to go back and read the Hamdi v Rumsfeld decision and tell us all who had suspended habeas corpus. Was it the president? Congress? Rumsfeld?
It is absolutely impossible to argue that the President has the unilateral power to suspend the writ of habeas corpus but yet, at the same time, does not have the power to detain unlawful combatants.
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