Posted on 04/12/2007 7:26:48 AM PDT by Esther Ruth
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Many Christians who research and follow the CFR’s ‘global governance’ agenda have legitimate concerns and apprehensions about the CFR’s redefinition of state sovereingty and its calls for states to surrender portions of their sovereingty.
These concerns are especially heightend by a fear that the CFR’s efforts may play a role in fulfilling eschatological prophecies regarding a global one world government that will persecute Christians during the tribulation.
This isn’t Rick Warren’s only spin doctor. He has several, including an attack dog on other websites that attack those who reveal Warren’s error. Do some Google searches and see what you find. Interesting stuff, but you will find enough reading materials to last a year or more.
Excuse my ignorance, but is this the organization that is the forerunner of the Bilderburgs? Or are they related somehow?
The fruit on the Warren tree should be open to inspection. I have recently begun to suspect that the evangelical leadership has been corrupted, anyhow. This sort of adds to that observation. Sad.
Article referenced by:
CFR President Richard Haass
Sovereignty and Globalisation
Author: Richard N. Haass, President
February 17, 2006
Project Syndicate
The world’s 190-plus states now co-exist with a larger number of powerful non-sovereign and at least partly (and often largely) independent actors, ranging from corporations to non-government organisations (NGOs), from terrorist groups to drug cartels, from regional and global institutions to banks and private equity funds. The sovereign state is influenced by them (for better and for worse) as much as it is able to influence them. The near monopoly of power once enjoyed by sovereign entities is being eroded.
As a result, new mechanisms are needed for regional and global governance that include actors other than states. This is not to argue that Microsoft, Amnesty International, or Goldman Sachs be given seats in the United Nations General Assembly, but it does mean including representatives of such organisations in regional and global deliberations when they have the capacity to affect whether and how regional and global challenges are met.
Moreover, states must be prepared to cede some sovereignty to world bodies if the international system is to function.
This is already taking place in the trade realm. Governments agree to accept the rulings of the World Trade Organisation because on balance they benefit from an international trading order, even if a particular decision requires that they alter a practice that is their sovereign right to carry out.
Some governments are prepared to give up elements of sovereignty to address the threat of global climate change. Under one such arrangement, the Kyoto Protocol, which runs through 2012, signatories agree to cap specific emissions. What is needed now is a successor arrangement in which a larger number of governments, including the United States, China and India, accept emission limits or adopt common standards because they recognise that they would be worse off if no country did.
All of this suggests that sovereignty must be redefined if states are to cope with globalisation.
At its core, globalisation entails the increasing volume, velocity and importance of flows within and across borders of people, ideas, greenhouse gases, goods, dollars, drugs, viruses, emails, weapons, and a good deal else, challenging one of sovereignty’s fundamental principles: the ability to control what crosses borders in either direction. Sovereign states increasingly measure their vulnerability not to one another, but to forces beyond their control.
Globalisation thus implies that sovereignty is not only becoming weaker in reality, but that it needs to become weaker. States would be wise to weaken sovereignty in order to protect themselves, because they cannot insulate themselves from what goes on elsewhere. Sovereignty is no longer a sanctuary.
This was demonstrated by the American and world reaction to terrorism. Afghanistan’s Taliban government, which provided access and support to al-Qaeda, was removed from power. Similarly, America’s preventive war against an Iraq that ignored the UN and was thought to possess weapons of mass destruction showed that sovereignty no longer provides absolute protection. Imagine how the world would react if some government were known to be planning to use or transfer a nuclear device or had already done so. Many would argue correctly that sovereignty provides no protection for that state.
Necessity may also lead to reducing or even eliminating sovereignty when a government, whether from a lack of capacity or conscious policy, is unable to provide for the basic needs of its citizens. This reflects not simply scruples, but a view that state failure and genocide can lead to destabilising refugee flows and create openings for terrorists to take root.
The North Atlantic Treaty Organisation’s intervention in Kosovo was an example where a number of governments chose to violate the sovereignty of another government (Serbia) to stop ethnic cleansing and genocide. By contrast, the mass killing in Rwanda a decade ago and now in Darfur, Sudan, demonstrate the high price of judging sovereignty to be supreme and thus doing little to prevent the slaughter of innocents.
Our notion of sovereignty must therefore be conditional, even contractual, rather than absolute. If a state fails to live up to its side of the bargain by sponsoring terrorism, either transferring or using weapons of mass destruction, or conducting genocide, then it forfeits the normal benefits of sovereignty and opens itself up to attack, removal or occupation. The diplomatic challenge for this era is to gain widespread support for principles of state conduct and a procedure for determining remedies when these principles are violated.
The goal should be to redefine sovereignty for the era of globalisation, to find a balance between a world of fully sovereign states and an international system of either world government or anarchy.
The basic idea of sovereignty, which still provides a useful constraint on violence between states, needs to be preserved. But the concept needs to be adapted to a world in which the main challenges to order come from what global forces do to states and what governments do to their citizens, rather than from what states do to one another.
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PING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I didn’t know Warren had this one world agenda. Probably has visions of himself as the ruler of the world.
This could be cause for concern ping...
Regarding the CFR and individual sovereignty
http://www.cfr.org/publication/8102/building_a_north_american_community.html
http://www.cfr.org/content/publications/attachments/NorthAmerica_TF_final.pdf
This is all the proof I need about CFR. Rick Warren would do well to remember that old saw, “You are known by the company you keep”.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1791554/posts
Game on ping!
You said — “I’m NOT familiar with this website.”
And neither was I so I checked it out. I looked at some of their “research links”, that they have listed on their page. I noticed that I use about half of those links myself and consider them to be very good resources.
Many of them are talking about the *Emergent Church* and this is a critical issue, today for the church.
One in particular I like to go to (to listen to a radio program) is Olive Tree Ministries, with Jan Markel as the host. She has a lot of guests on her show talking about many relevant issues to the church today. She has an archive of the show (going back about twor or three years) and you can get a look at the guests and the topics and listen to any of them. You’ll certainly get educated on that show.
Plus there are all those other sites for a lot of good reading, too.
Here are the links that they include —
A Little Leaven
http://www.alittleleaven.com/
Apprising Ministries
http://apprising.org/
Berean Beacon (Richard Bennett)
http://www.bereanbeacon.org/
Berit Kjos
http://www.crossroad.to/
Bob DeWaay
http://cicministry.org/
Christian Apologetics and Research
http://www.carm.org/
Christian Worldview Network
http://www.christianworldviewnetwork.com/
Discernment Ministries
http://discernment-ministries.org/
Emergent No
http://www.emergentno.blogspot.com/
Gary Gilley Commentaries
http://www.svchapel.org/Resources/articles/index.asp
Herescope
http://www.herescope.blogspot.com/
In the Name of Purpose
http://www.inthenameofpurpose.org/
Institute for Creation Research
http://www.icr.org/
John Ankerberg
http://www.johnankerberg.org/
Lighting the Way International
http://www.ltwinternational.org/
Olive Tree Ministries
http://www.olivetreeviews.org/
Reinventing Jesus Christ
http://www.reinventingjesuschrist.com/
Steve Camp
http://www.stevenjcamp.blogspot.com/
Take Heed Ministries
http://www.takeheed.net/
True Light Education Ministry
http://www.tlem.org/
Vayahiy...God’s Infallible Word
http://thewordunbroken.blogspot.com/
Veritas Forum
http://www.veritas.org/
Walter Martin Main Site
http://www.waltermartin.org/
Walter Martin Ministries Blog
http://www.waltermartin.org/blog.html
Regards,
Star Traveler
“For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.”
;o) Keep the faith!
You said — “Game on ping!”
Well, I was pinging you as you were pinging me... :-)
Regards,
Star Traveler
GMTA!
[...Haass makes the case ... that ‘states must be prepared
to cede some sovereignty to world bodies if the international
system is to function...]
Sounds, smells, walks, talks, looks like Global Governance to me.
Great minds ping alike!
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