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How Al Gore is Ruining Opera
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| 4/11/2007
| Edward Hudgins
Posted on 04/11/2007 11:44:44 AM PDT by Ed Hudgins
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To: Ed Hudgins
How hilarious. “...sacrifice of love and ethics on the altars of capitalism...” As if Wagner ever muttered the term ‘capitalism’ in his entire life. The old boy must be spinning in his grave, or wherever. Imagine having to sit through the Ring cycle and be beaten down by Gore agit-prop at the same time. Sounds like something they would do to recalcitrant terrorists in Guantanamo. I feel for this opera fan.
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posted on
04/11/2007 11:51:11 AM PDT
by
3AngelaD
To: Ed Hudgins
We've had Wieland Wagner's Nazi "Ring" in the Thirties and Patrice Chereaux' anti-capitalist "Ring" in 1967. (Loge walks on stage in a tuxedo reading the
Wall Street Journal.)
This is just another attempt to interpret the "Ring" and sounds like not much more than an update to Chereaux. Perhaps we can call it the "Gore Ring".
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posted on
04/11/2007 11:52:58 AM PDT
by
Publius
(A = A)
To: Ed Hudgins
Wagner was a huge anti-semite and not surprisingly Hitler's favorite composer. The overture to Rienzi in fact became the defacto theme of Hilter's Nazi party rallies. When I play Rienzi at home I can't help imagining goose stepping soldiers, convoys of tanks, long red flags hanging down from building roofs, and Hitler standing there taking it all in. Very powerful music.
To: Publius
Yes, the French always screw things up!
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posted on
04/11/2007 12:04:25 PM PDT
by
Ed Hudgins
(Rand fan)
To: Ed Hudgins
How Al Gore is Ruining Opera LOL. When I first glanced at the title, I thought it said:
"How Al Gore is Ruining Oprah"
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posted on
04/11/2007 12:08:26 PM PDT
by
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posted on
04/11/2007 12:12:38 PM PDT
by
sitetest
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To: HarmlessLovableFuzzball
Der Fuhrer also really liked Anton Bruckner, who like Hitler hailed from the Linz area and who worshipped Wagner.
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posted on
04/11/2007 12:17:51 PM PDT
by
Cyclopean Squid
(A Day Late and a Dollar Short)
To: Ed Hudgins
I thought you meant the browser
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posted on
04/11/2007 12:17:58 PM PDT
by
Kaslin
(Fred Thompson for President 2008)
To: Ed Hudgins; aculeus; AnAmericanMother; Billthedrill; MozartLover; Thinkin' Gal; sitetest
The despoiling of nature through greed and ambition begins even before the stage action does, with Wotan sacrificing his own eye to drink from the Well of Wisdom and then mutilate the World Ash tree to create his spear. The destruction of our nations environment also began early in our history, with the violation of our rich natural resources and the pollution and disfigurement of our landscape, which will surely lead to our demise if left unchecked..
A FURIOUS WOTAN LASHES OUT: BLAME RHINEMAIDEN GREED, NOT ME
Cites Disproportionate Impact on Gods of Valhalla Blaze
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posted on
04/11/2007 12:19:35 PM PDT
by
dighton
To: Ed Hudgins
The arts world is "ass full" of liberals to use a term my daddy used to be fond of. I'd guesstimate roughly 99%
I base that on a previous job of mine where I frequently came into contact with members of the Alabama Symphony Orchestra, Alabama Ballet and Opera Birmingham. I'm not talking about a few, I'm talking about practically all - from guys that paint the scenes on up.
There are a variety of reasons for it but you can just about count on it.
To: 3AngelaD
The Ring has been interpreted in terms of just about every social theory in history including Shavian socialism. Wagner’s intentions don’t really come into play and shouldn’t as great art should stand up to all sorts of interpretations. Even shallow fairy tales like the libretto of The Ring.
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posted on
04/11/2007 12:32:20 PM PDT
by
Borges
To: Borges
Should be ‘Fabian socialism’
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posted on
04/11/2007 12:33:17 PM PDT
by
Borges
To: Borges
Go figure. I always thought one of the themes was the conflict between idealism and materialism. I guess that was just my personal bias. Your comments did make me smile, however, when I envisioned GBS and the Webbs sitting at the opera reading the program notes that they had written out loud and bullying the other opera fans to listen.
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posted on
04/11/2007 12:37:19 PM PDT
by
3AngelaD
To: Ed Hudgins
I thought it was about how the inventor of the Internet had ruined the Opera browser.
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posted on
04/11/2007 12:38:16 PM PDT
by
steve-b
(It's hard to be religious when certain people don't get struck by lightning.)
To: 3AngelaD
Think about all the ‘Freudian’, ‘Marxist’ and ‘Feminist’ readings applied to Shakespeare throughout the 20th century. Heck English Romantics like Blake and Shelley interpreted Paradise Lost in ways that would have made Milton cross eyed.
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posted on
04/11/2007 12:40:17 PM PDT
by
Borges
To: Ed Hudgins
To: HarmlessLovableFuzzball
My opera buddy has a recording of a special performance of the Ring performed before a select crowd of SS officers that had caught Hitler’s favor. It’s chilling.
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posted on
04/11/2007 12:54:20 PM PDT
by
ichabod1
("Liberals read Karl Marx. Conservatives UNDERSTAND Karl Marx." Ronald Reagan)
To: Borges
That’s post-moderninsm for you. There is no objective reality. Things mean whatever the viewer wants them to mean. Of course, this is a cynical way to diss Western values and to push the left’s agenda. And when you point out that the post-modernists contradict themselves, that if everything is an subjective interpretation, then so are their theories and thoughts, they respond the way Marx did when people asked him “How can you, a bourgeois, understand the working class since you say that the bourgeois mind, formed by capitalist institutions, is biologically incapable of understanding the working class mind?” Both post-modernists and the Marxists from which they came, say “See, you bourgeois minds cannot understand this dialectic logic.” In other words, they’re full of it!
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posted on
04/11/2007 1:01:16 PM PDT
by
Ed Hudgins
(Rand fan)
To: Borges
The BBC did a Shakespeare ReTold series that I saw last year, and the Taming of the Shrew episode was absolutely classic. And hilarious. I watched it twice it was so good. Usually I dislike Shakespeare in modern dress, but this one was so well done I had to lower my guard and enjoy it.
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posted on
04/11/2007 1:06:19 PM PDT
by
3AngelaD
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