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There are a great many cases of paternity in America which are a modern variant of impressment and peonage.
1 posted on 04/10/2007 1:22:00 PM PDT by Quick or Dead
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"His bill would allow men to bring forward DNA evidence at any time to prove they are not obligated to pay child support."

I imagine then that a woman could bring forth AT ANY TIME DNA evidence that proves some joker owes her tons of money for their kids even if 20 yrs has passed.....

men will rue the day that their sperm is the sole factor in being a father.....

It works both ways......

some women may find this a convenient way to rid themselves of custody battles with non-father fathers.....

be careful what you wish for....

159 posted on 04/10/2007 3:17:22 PM PDT by cherry
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No matter what, the child is ALWAYS the victim. If people would save sex for marriage, and not treat marriage as a temporary thing, children would have a stable life. And there wouldn’t be so many fatherless kids around.


165 posted on 04/10/2007 3:19:59 PM PDT by kitkat (The first step down to hell is to deny the existence of evil.)
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Can anyone suggest the best approach to a situation for the guy where the girl gets pregnant, tags the guy as the father. The guy wonders if he's the only candidate for fatherdom but doesn't want to push the issue for the fear that the girl will abort the baby out of anger.

He wants to have the DNA test to prove he is the father, but is told by the doctor that taking DNA from the baby before it's born is risky, and the guy doesn't want to risk the baby's health. Yet, when the baby is born it supposedly takes weeks to get the DNA result and so the guy will be pressured by the girl to sign the birth certificate as the father before the DNA results are returned.

What are the guy's best options under these circumstances to protect the baby's life and health while protecting his right to prove he is or is not the father? Anyone have any advice?

181 posted on 04/10/2007 3:27:08 PM PDT by OB1kNOb (If you call yourself a conservative, then act conservative and support Duncan Hunter for POTUS.)
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Linda Elrod, director of the Children and Family Law Center at Washburn University, said she was saddened by cases where DNA evidence was used to challenge paternity. She said the cases not only cut off support payments but often ruptured a mature parental bond.

Call a waaaaaaaaaaaaambulance.

196 posted on 04/10/2007 3:34:56 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Will I be suspended again for this remark?)
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This is just another case where men get the shaft.

How about if the courts awarded the non-daddy custody and Mama had to pay support? See how the feminists lobby likes that one.
Not that it could ever happen Fathers always get screwed in custody unless the mother is smoking crack on the witness stand while having sex with the man she ran off with, and the Judge happens to wake up long enough to see it.


205 posted on 04/10/2007 3:40:25 PM PDT by sgtbono2002 (I will forgive Jane Fonda, when the Jews forgive Hitler.)
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See impressment
208 posted on 04/10/2007 3:42:37 PM PDT by A. Pole (Mike Norman: "the job of the [...] citizens is to invest, not toil away on a production line")
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Enough of the “sluts’ cut!”

Let the judges pay if they want to stop the “child” from suffering. The child has it bad enough with a ho for a mom as it is!


249 posted on 04/10/2007 4:13:03 PM PDT by Bon mots
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I am ambivalent here. I think if a man accepted a child as his then he has accepted the responsibility for that child whether he had any genetic input or not. I do have a problem with benefits being awarded on the basis of claims by a woman who has is not married to the man and has been promiscuous. A few years ago I read about women naming soldiers in combat they had never even met and getting benefits awarded on their say so. I know this used to happen here not even involving soldiers. It is still hard to get out of it if a woman has put your name on a birth certificate as the father. One local judge once said it is in the state’s and child’s interests to assign a father. That’s scary.


315 posted on 04/10/2007 5:11:13 PM PDT by arthurus (Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE)
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Injustice abounds in our “Feel Good” society. Should we expect anything else?


336 posted on 04/10/2007 5:36:45 PM PDT by semaj (Just shoot the bastards! * Void where prohibited.)
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Others, such as Jacobs, want to set a two-year deadline for using genetic tests to challenge paternity. She said courts also needed the discretion to weigh the quality of a parental relationship and the best interest of a child.

I assume it would be in the best interest of the child to claim that Donald Trump was the father, whether he was or not. However, the "best interest of the child" argument is not justification for making a man pay child support for another man's child.

361 posted on 04/10/2007 6:23:52 PM PDT by SALChamps03
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Here's a story in the Times about DNA testing for immigration purposes.  The poor slob in the story found out that only 1 of the several children he always considered his are in fact not his biological children.

DNA Tests Offer Immigrants Hope or Despair 

The article discusses his pain, of course   He is also seeking to still bring them to the USA to be with him, petitioning as a step-dad.  His personal pain is secondary to the care of the children he loves and long considered his.

Yes, he discusses the pain of the unfaithfulness of his wife, but he is a stand up guy and realizes that it's about the children, not him  getting his feelings hurt or being a victim, or whining about money or how they aren't his responsibility anymore.  Bravo! 

Some Freeper males should take note and see how a real man takes care of business!

367 posted on 04/10/2007 7:04:28 PM PDT by HitmanLV ("If at first you don't succeed, keep on sucking until you do suck seed." - Jerry 'Curly' Howard)
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In cases like this, the child should be removed from the Mother’s care and be given to the Father.

Let her pay the Child Support. It was her loose morals and activities that resulted in the birth in the first place.

DNA isn’t needed except to prove who the real father is, and he can pay child support too.

That will stop alot of this crap overnight. Might even make a few loose “wives” rethink their morals.


448 posted on 04/11/2007 8:43:31 AM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (Won't vote for a liberal in the democrat party, won't vote for one in the Republican party. Ever)
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A few years ago, some woman tried to say that my son-in-law was the father of her child (before he married my daughter. My daughter is an RN, and she instantly sent him to get a DNA test. Turned out he was not the father at all. The woman was just trying to find someone to pay child support whether he was the father or not.

Carolyn

452 posted on 04/11/2007 9:21:25 AM PDT by CDHart ("It's too late to work within the system and too early to shoot the b@#$%^&s."--Claire Wolfe)
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