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India reopens artillery competition
The Telegraph,India ^ | April 05, 2007 | SUJAN DUTTA

Posted on 04/05/2007 7:52:30 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki

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1 posted on 04/05/2007 7:52:32 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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but also for the licensed production arrangements,

I suspect that's what they are really after - the indigenous capacity to make the weapons. That's what they did with submarines.

2 posted on 04/05/2007 8:00:32 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Rs 15,000 crore

1 crore = 10,000,000

15,000 crore rupees = 15,000 x 10 million rupees = 150 billion rupees

150 billion rupees = approx. 3.5 billion US dollars.


3 posted on 04/05/2007 8:02:07 AM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Anyone who names a Korean company K-9 has a sick sense of humor.


4 posted on 04/05/2007 8:05:24 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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I hear from friends in the USMC that the South Africans have some of the best artillery in the world. The range of its weapons is significantly longer than US weapons.


5 posted on 04/05/2007 8:06:09 AM PDT by GeorgefromGeorgia
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To: PAR35

License production is not really a big deal-esp if the order gets bigger.Everyone is doing it as long as most of the important tech stays with the supplier.The crucial issue is on the transfer of high-end technology to the buyer .This is what takes up time in negotiations.

About subs,India pretty much lost it capabilities in making subs since the government blacklisted HDW of Germany-it’s now being renovated with French help.


6 posted on 04/05/2007 8:08:16 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: GeorgefromGeorgia

They do have some of the best & have done a lot of joint work with the Germans on developing long range shells.They were well on their way to win this Indian contract till they shot themselves in the rear end by reportedly bribing Indian officials & getting blacklisted.


7 posted on 04/05/2007 8:11:14 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: GeorgefromGeorgia
I hear from friends in the USMC that the South Africans have some of the best artillery in the world. The range of its weapons is significantly longer than US weapons.

My undersanding is that tradeoffs must be made between range, accuracy, weight and barrel life.

8 posted on 04/05/2007 8:16:59 AM PDT by fso301
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e) Denel, the South African gun maker, that had emerged as the single vendor for the tracked version, was blacklisted in 2005 on another deal involving anti-materiel guns.

Especially with those anti-matter shells! They probably create mini-black holes with each impact!


9 posted on 04/05/2007 8:25:13 AM PDT by rahbert
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To: GeorgefromGeorgia

IIRC, they use a longer tube to get the extra range.


10 posted on 04/05/2007 8:40:11 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: fso301

The EFC (equivalent full charge) life is shorter on some of the “tighter” barrels. Some of these countries don’t practice like the US, so barrel life isn’t the concern that it is in the US and other countries.


11 posted on 04/05/2007 8:41:49 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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More than likely the blacklisting had more to do with their working with the Israelies on certain nuclear projects. Their projectiles and propellants are quite innovative and permit 50 KM ranges.


12 posted on 04/05/2007 8:47:12 AM PDT by ArtyFO (I love to smoke cigars when I adjust artillery fire at the moonbat loonery.)
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My undersanding is that tradeoffs must be made between range, accuracy, weight and barrel life.

That's true enough, but the sad fact is that the US Army's gun artillery is not the best there is. Hasn't been for a very long time - even when I was on active duty as an artillery officer in the 1970s, that much was clear. Sure, our logistics, fire control, radar, etc. are excellent, but in a gun duel, I wouldn't want to have the US tubes at longer ranges.

13 posted on 04/05/2007 8:54:56 AM PDT by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo Arabiam Esse Delendam -- Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit)
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To: GeorgefromGeorgia

They do. The G6 Rhino is the best SP Artillery System in the world and very long ranged, nearly double some of our stuff if you believe the OSINT.


14 posted on 04/05/2007 8:56:35 AM PDT by StAthanasiustheGreat (Vocatus Atque Non Vocatus Deus Aderit)
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Thanks to Rumsfeld, our artillery is now second rate. He singlehandedly brought down our world class arty piece in 2002. It will take us years to catch up.


15 posted on 04/05/2007 9:04:08 AM PDT by ArtyFO (I love to smoke cigars when I adjust artillery fire at the moonbat loonery.)
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Err,India has far greater military cooperation with Israel than South Africa,which has essentially downgraded it’s relationship with Israel.If the South Africans were working with Israel,the Indian Army would have welcomed them.


16 posted on 04/05/2007 9:38:07 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: ArtyFO
My old red legs tremble when I think about the Crusader system - but it sure was heavy.... From what the guys I knew still at the school said, however, it was not that much more than catch up. The last really world class tube we fielded was the 8" howitzer. It was amazing to see an 8" round put through the door of a bunker....

From the Blockhouse on Signal Mountain, left 900, add 6000, and Fire For Effect...

should just about get you to the intersection of Sheridan and Gore... just like Atomic Annie in the '50s

17 posted on 04/05/2007 9:53:24 AM PDT by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo Arabiam Esse Delendam -- Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit)
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To: GeorgefromGeorgia

Yes, but do South Africa’s enemies refer to their artillery shelling as “steel rain”?


18 posted on 04/05/2007 10:06:01 AM PDT by Diplomat
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Look up Dr. Gerald Bull...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G5_howitzer


19 posted on 04/05/2007 10:14:09 AM PDT by MD_Willington_1976
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To: sukhoi-30mki

How does “52 calber” relate to 155mm? 155mm @25.4mm per inch is 6.1 inches. A .50 caliber is one half inch so what is “52 caliber”?


20 posted on 04/05/2007 10:32:53 AM PDT by Hatband
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